Re: Getting organized

Milton and all

there are goals and various documents and repositories on the Groups web
page. I am working on one or two of those items, in relation to my
research, and will be happy to share the outcomes when I have progress.
The rest is free for group members to edit, add, create
etc.   The only thing that we should do get others to comment on people
inputs/actions/outcomes

PDM


On Thu, Jul 11, 2019 at 8:19 AM Owen Ambur <owen.ambur@verizon.net> wrote:

> Thanks for your kind remarks, Milton.
>
> The sustainable development goals (SDGs) are already available in StratML
> format at http://stratml.us/drybridge/index.htm#UN or, more specifically,
> http://stratml.us/carmel/iso/UNSDGwStyle.xml  Each goal and objective has
> a GUID that can be referenced in other, supportive plans, thereby
> documenting virtual partnerships.
>
> See, for example, SDG:
>
> Objective 17.6:
> <http://stratml.us/carmel/iso/UNSDGwStyle.xml#_b061e346-5042-11e9-aeb5-d9d1901d81c0>Cooperation
> & Knowledge - Enhance North-South, South-South and triangular regional
> and international cooperation on and access to science, technology and
> innovation and enhance knowledge sharing on mutually agreed terms,
> including through improved coordination among existing mechanisms, in
> particular at the United Nations level, and through a global technology
> facilitation mechanism
>
>
> See also StratML use cases:
>
> Goal 14:
> <http://stratml.us/carmel/iso/UC4SwStyle.xml#_0fc1e310-08a5-11e6-b06f-a2fa45c7ae33>Partnerships
> & Multi-Organization Groups - Use the Relationship elements to
> cross-reference common and complementary objectives in the plans of each
> member of a partnership, consortium, or other informal group.
> Goal 18:
> <http://stratml.us/carmel/iso/UC4SwStyle.xml#_0fc1e4d2-08a5-11e6-b06f-a2fa45c7ae33>Virtual
> Organizations - Create virtual organizations as implementers of the goals
> and objectives documented on the Web in StratML format by their
> participants.
>
>
> If this group had a plan, the stratml:Relationship elements
> <http://stratml.us/references/oxygen/PerformancePlanOrReport20160216_xsd.htm#Relationship>
> could be used to strategically align (literally link) its objective(s) to
> the SDGs.  This form could be used to do that:
> http://stratml.us/forms/Part2Form.xml
>
> As far as the W3C is concerned, I am about to give up on them as well.
> From my perspective, they're starting to look pretty artificially ignorant
> <https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/artificial-ignorance-owen-ambur/> (of
> their own XML standard, for example).  I'm beginning to think the
> organization may have outlived its usefulness, if not assumed the role of
> defending the incumbent powers-that-be rather than stimulating openness and
> innovation.
>
> On the other hand, of course, I am also quite aware of my own limitations
> and am open to learning the weaknesses of my knowledge as well as the
> errors of my logic and understanding.
>
> BTW, with respect to applying AI make sense of documents, I'm looking
> forward to seeing what Jean Paoli and his Docugami
> <http://stratml.us/carmel/iso/DCGMwStyle.xml> colleagues can do.
> However, to the degree that humans (and organization like the UN) insist on
> continuing to produce amorphous documentation, if any documentation at all,
> the ability of AI agents to make sense of it is limited.  For example, even
> though all strategic plans contain essentially the same content, AI agents
> may not be able to parse out the goals, objectives, and stakeholders if the
> content is haphazardly formatted.  No doubt, someday they will have such
> capabilities, but in the meantime, the question arises as to why we insist
> upon making it so hard for AI agents to help us accomplish our objectives.
>
> Owen Ambur
> https://www.linkedin.com/in/owenambur/
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: ProjectParadigm-ICT-Program <metadataportals@yahoo.com>
> To: public-aikr <public-aikr@w3.org>; Owen Ambur <owen.ambur@verizon.net>
> Sent: Wed, Jul 10, 2019 5:54 pm
> Subject: Re: Getting organized
>
> Dear Owen,
>
> I very much appreciate your contributions to this listserv, and I share
> with you the viewpoint that "the representation of knowledge should
> support the achievement of human objectives." In my case a.o. achieving
> the Sustainable Development Goals of the UN and sustainable development of
> humankind in general.
>
> The UN and UNESCO as the designated and principal science, technology and
> education body of the UN share our viewpoint as well and even add an
> ethical dimension to this.
>
> I will look into to the UN and UNESCO documents on AI and see how we can
> translate these into strategic planning to fully benefit from StratML.
>
> Each of us brings his own ideas, ideals, thoughts, knowledge and
> experience and obviously expectations into this Community Group, and the
> diversity and the richness of ideas is what makes this collective endeavor
> important.
>
> And this is what I sincerely hope Paola will be able to convey in Fukuoka,
> and also achieve with the  interest generated with the upcoming special
> journal edition on AI and KR.
>
> Milton Ponson
> GSM: +297 747 8280
> PO Box 1154, Oranjestad
> Aruba, Dutch Caribbean
> Project Paradigm: Bringing the ICT tools for sustainable development to
> all stakeholders worldwide through collaborative research on applied
> mathematics, advanced modeling, software and standards development
>
>
> On Wednesday, July 10, 2019, 4:20:41 PM ADT, Owen Ambur <
> owen.ambur@verizon.net> wrote:
>
>
> As I understand Milton's point, it is the same one I've been trying to get
> across:  It is hard to know what to do if we don't know what we're trying
> to accomplish and have no way of determining whether we're making any
> progress or not.
>
> From my perspective, I don't believe any particular diagrams would be very
> useful.  I find most of them pretty frustrating.  However, the "checklists"
> he has suggested could be formatted as a performance plan.  If there is any
> interest in collaboratively authoring such a plan, I volunteer to compile
> the StratML rendition ... or anyone else could do so, using the XForm at
> http://legisworks.org/StratML/Part1Form.xml
>
> Failing that, I'm not sure maintaining a subscription to this listserv is
> worth my time.  I subscribed to it because the representation of knowledge
> should support the achievement of human objectives.  Otherwise, what's the
> point?  Unfortunately, however, I haven't seen much evidence that this
> listserv is making any meaningful contribution to the realization of any
> objectives about which I care.
>
> Owen Ambur
> https://www.linkedin.com/in/owenambur/
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Paola Di Maio <paola.dimaio@gmail.com>
> To: ProjectParadigm-ICT-Program <metadataportals@yahoo.com>
> Cc: W3C AIKR CG <public-aikr@w3.org>
> Sent: Wed, Jul 10, 2019 12:50 pm
> Subject: Re: Getting organized
>
> Milton
>
> thanks a lot for this
>
> I under heavy load, and working on the following
> - completing and editorial and a journal article submission for the Si
> (need a couple more weeks to finish )
> This will provide some input/further motivation to support the
> direction of this work
> - working on mapping two standards ISO and BCI mentioned earlier on
> this list to a potential schema
>
> Your tasklist sounds good, but  a bit ambitious, I think even half of
> what you propose may be useful if we can get it done before september
> (I am packed with deadines til the end of July)
> We could also set up a date for an online brainstorm
> if useful or collaborate on a shared spreadsheet
>
> Currently in Hong Kong for two more days, anyone on this list in HK?
> Many greetings, and thanks for getting this started
>
> On Thu, Jul 11, 2019 at 12:35 AM ProjectParadigm-ICT-Program
> <metadataportals@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >
> > Dear All,
> >
> > We have all been exchanging ideas and exploring areas of possible
> interest to knowledge representation.
> >
> > In order for us all to make sense of what we are currently at, we need
> to take stock of where we are and what we have produced so far, what we
> have agreed upon and who is attending what conferences, workshops etc. from
> which we could benefit.
> >
> > Since Paola is planning to go to Fukuoka in Japan for the annual W3C
> meet, getting organized in a more structured fashion is required.
> >
> > Since I committed myself more or less to providing some diagram
> overviews of disciplines, areas of research and subjects, and in particular
> areas of application with a corresponding literature review, I would like
> to know who else can pitch in to get at least the ground covered so far
> documented, and possible checklists.
> >
> > Some suggestions for possible checklists: (1) all subjects in the
> Mathematics Subject Classification that have a direct bearing on AI and KR
> as related to AI, (2) standards for technical and ethical aspects of AI,
> autonomous systems and e.g. robotics, (3) standards for KR,(4) professional
> organizations, industry organizations, research institutes, websites,
> online and printed journals and periodicals, annual conferences, workshops
> etc. on AI and KR (5) public and private or academic initiatives to
> implement AI and KR in the public sector, industry or society at large.
> >
> > Anyone up to the task?
> >
> > Milton Ponson
> > GSM: +297 747 8280
> > PO Box 1154, Oranjestad
> > Aruba, Dutch Caribbean
> > Project Paradigm: Bringing the ICT tools for sustainable development to
> all stakeholders worldwide through collaborative research on applied
> mathematics, advanced modeling, software and standards development
>