Re: welcome newcomers subgroups, home page and categories

actually, Carl
in addition to new definitions for existing concepts
there are 'new concepts' coming up every day that need defining

is the vocabulary entry form  adequate for your suggested
process or if you suggest changes,
should we add a category 'new concept' or if you d like to set up
a new form entirely for 'new concept' where formal definitions not yet
exist?

PDM

Dr Paola Di Maio
Center For Technology Ethics

ISTCS.org
Chair: W3C AIKR  <https://www.w3.org/community/aikr/>


*A bit about me <https://about.me/paoladimaio>*


On Wed, Jul 18, 2018 at 7:56 PM, carl mattocks <carlmattocks@gmail.com>
wrote:

> I support including concept definitions for AI and KR and the compound
> AIKR in an AIKR Upper Ontology .. especially if they employ or are employed
> as normative references
>
> Carl
>
> It was a pleasure to clarify
>
> On Wed, Jul 18, 2018 at 9:59 AM, Paola Di Maio <paola.dimaio@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Thank you Carl
>>
>> t thanks for the suggestion and link
>>  but then, we may have to agree on a definition for ;new;
>> are AI and KR new concepts? or are we trying to create new definitions
>> for existing concepts
>> Lol
>> (disclosure: I belong to the pedantic camp)
>>
>> Dr Paola Di Maio
>> Center For Technology Ethics
>>
>> ISTCS.org
>> Chair: W3C AIKR  <https://www.w3.org/community/aikr/>
>>
>>
>> *A bit about me <https://about.me/paoladimaio>*
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Jul 18, 2018 at 6:56 PM, carl mattocks <carlmattocks@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> To help progress .. please consider using a page with content similar to
>>> 'concept creation' guidelines
>>>
>>>
>>>    -
>>>       - 1.1 What sort of 'thing' is this proposed concept anyway?
>>>       <https://wiki.idesg.kantarainitiative.org/wiki/index.php/Concept_Creation_Guidelines#What_sort_of_.27thing.27_is_this_proposed_concept_anyway.3F>
>>>       - 1.2 How to decide? Is it important?
>>>       <https://wiki.idesg.kantarainitiative.org/wiki/index.php/Concept_Creation_Guidelines#How_to_decide.3F_Is_it_important.3F>
>>>       - 1.3 Understanding context
>>>       <https://wiki.idesg.kantarainitiative.org/wiki/index.php/Concept_Creation_Guidelines#Understanding_context>
>>>       - 1.4 The "Conversation" is valuable
>>>       <https://wiki.idesg.kantarainitiative.org/wiki/index.php/Concept_Creation_Guidelines#The_.22Conversation.22_is_valuable>
>>>    - 2 Using a Meta-Model (or two)
>>>    <https://wiki.idesg.kantarainitiative.org/wiki/index.php/Concept_Creation_Guidelines#Using_a_Meta-Model_.28or_two.29>
>>>    - 3 Create a new proposed Concept
>>>    <https://wiki.idesg.kantarainitiative.org/wiki/index.php/Concept_Creation_Guidelines#Create_a_new_proposed_Concept>
>>>
>>> https://wiki.idesg.kantarainitiative.org/wiki/index.php/Conc
>>> ept_Creation_Guidelines
>>>
>>> Carl Mattocks
>>>
>>> It was a pleasure to clarify
>>>
>>> On Wed, Jul 18, 2018 at 1:55 AM, Paola Di Maio <paola.dimaio@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Thank you Milton
>>>>
>>>> Do you have a way you'd like to propose the way forward?
>>>>
>>>> Shall we just create two pages, where we collect existing definitions
>>>> and come up with our own
>>>> definition that possibly encompasses them all, thus delivers the
>>>> broadest possible meaning?
>>>>
>>>> Should the group be the 'owner' of these two definitions?
>>>>
>>>> Let me know if you can initiate these two pages
>>>>
>>>> P
>>>>
>>>> Dr Paola Di Maio
>>>> Center For Technology Ethics
>>>>
>>>> ISTCS.org
>>>> Chair: W3C AIKR  <https://www.w3.org/community/aikr/>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> *A bit about me <https://about.me/paoladimaio>*
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Jul 18, 2018 at 3:21 AM, ProjectParadigm-ICT-Program <
>>>> metadataportals@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi Paola and other members of the AIKR community group.
>>>>>
>>>>> Two things we need to establish to reach a consensus of the area we
>>>>> are going to deal with.
>>>>>
>>>>> Number one: the broadest possible definition of what constitutes
>>>>> "artificial intelligence" and number two what constitutes "knowledge
>>>>> representation" also in the broadest possible sense.
>>>>>
>>>>> Only then can we assess what grounds we want or need to cover.
>>>>>
>>>>> It is for that reason I proposed to create and overview map of what
>>>>> currently constitutes AI and related disciplines.
>>>>>
>>>>> But I am also writing a definition paper using category theory to
>>>>> establish a generalized framework which introduces all possible categories
>>>>> of interacting entities, and utilizes a system to define boundaries for AI
>>>>> for interaction, as suggested by the likes of Stephen Hawking, Elon Musk,
>>>>> Kurzweil and countless others.
>>>>>
>>>>> regards
>>>>>
>>>>> Milton Ponson
>>>>> GSM: +297 747 8280
>>>>> PO Box 1154, Oranjestad
>>>>> Aruba, Dutch Caribbean
>>>>> Project Paradigm: Bringing the ICT tools for sustainable development
>>>>> to all stakeholders worldwide through collaborative research on applied
>>>>> mathematics, advanced modeling, software and standards development
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Sunday, July 15, 2018 2:41 AM, Paola Di Maio <
>>>>> paola.dimaio@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Welcome newcomers (22 members!)
>>>>> there's a thread in the mailing list to intro yourselves at your
>>>>> convenience
>>>>>
>>>>> Based on other work, and anticipating future developments
>>>>> (Milton mentioned subgroups) I have created a page subgroups, and
>>>>> opened two additional pages as containers for future subgroups where some
>>>>> work may be needed (AI Ethics KR and Professional schemas).
>>>>> Feel free to edit, add, enter etc
>>>>> https://www.w3.org/community/aikr/subgroups/
>>>>>
>>>>> This is a bit ahead of us perhaps but things are moving fast to have
>>>>> the pages may be cognitive support. The professional schema entry may need
>>>>> better wording, I have not thought it property yet.
>>>>>
>>>>> I have two issues with our home page, maybe W3C folks on this list can
>>>>> assist?
>>>>>
>>>>> Here
>>>>> https://www.w3.org/community/aikr/
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> 1. The main text area of the page contains some duplicate text, I dont
>>>>> seem to be able to edit/access the upper portion of the group description,
>>>>> I have pinged Veronica Thom about this but have not yet had any reply.
>>>>> Maybe this was created by staff and I cannot edit? can someone assist
>>>>>
>>>>> 2. On the right hand sidebar, where it says 'categories'
>>>>> the categories which I created are not listed, can someone help?
>>>>>
>>>>> Thank you!!
>>>>>
>>>>> PDM
>>>>>
>>>>> Dr Paola Di Maio
>>>>> Center For Technology Ethics
>>>>>
>>>>> ISTCS.org
>>>>> Chair: W3C AIKR  <https://www.w3.org/community/aikr/>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> *A bit about me <https://about.me/paoladimaio>*
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
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