Re: Suggestions about AccessLearn

Hi José, all

Thankyou for these suggestions! They’re definitely worth considering in more detail as one way forward in connecting W3C technical specifications with a wider accessibility policy and strategy framework that can be applied effectively to online learning.

This reminds me to introduce the AccessLearn wiki, which W3C provides for us to use as a resource. The wiki would be a great place to store proposals like this, as well as inventories of current standards and resources that are relevant to online learning. I think anyone who has signed up to the group should be able to access the wiki and contribute (please let me know if not). We just need to figure out how best to manage the content creation in a constructive way. Here’s the wiki link:

https://www.w3.org/community/accesslearn/wiki/Main_Page

Laura’s email to this list about the new WCAG charter and its mention of digital learning materials is further evidence that this group has a big role to play in contributing to the development of supporting resources for WCAG that more effectively supports people involved in online learning.

Dave

David Sloan

UX Research Lead
The Paciello Group
dsloan@paciellogroup.com



On 28 Sep 2015, at 03:16, Hilera González José Ramón <jose.hilera@uah.es> wrote:

> Dear all,
> 
> About the notes from AccessLearn first teleconference and the results of the initial survey, and I have some suggestions about it.
> 
> Maybe could be interesting the definition of a reference model or a conceptual framework in which locate the results of the group: guidelines, resources, recommendations, etc. related with accessible online (web-based) learning.
> 
> In this way, an organization in levels perhaps could be suitable.
> 
> For example as follows, an organization of 5 accessible online learning levels, where specifications or recommendations in level N use recommendations in level N-1 or lower.
> 
> Level 5: Institutional. This level could include national or international legislation about accessibility with application in online learning, including Articles 9 and 24 from the United Nations Convention on the Rights of Persons with Disabilities.
> Level 4: Pedagogical. In this level would be recommendations as CAST's UDL guidelines.
> Level 3: Adaptive. With standards as IMS AccessForAll or ISO/IEC 24751.
> Level 2: Content. With guidelines as WCAG, ATAG
> Level 1: Technical. Including HTML, CSS, WAI-ARIA, APIs, Web browsers, UAAG, assistive technologies, etc.
> 
> In this context, I think that, until now, W3C has only published recommendations about accessibility for the lower levels: content (1) and technical (2). Perhaps could be convenient for the W3C AccessLearn group working to offer additional recommendations for the other levels: new recommendations or merely a way to harmonize recommendations widely used and published by others.
> 
> Regards
> 
> José R. Hilera
> 
> 
> -----Mensaje original-----
> De: David Sloan [mailto:dsloan@paciellogroup.com] 
> Enviado el: martes, 18 de agosto de 2015 0:29
> Para: <public-accesslearn@w3.org>
> Asunto: Re: Notes from AccessLearn teleconference
> 
> Hi all
> 
> Thank you all for your thoughtful points on the accessibility of teleconferences as a means for this group to communicate. It's vital that this group enables full participation, and it goes without saying that we don't want to exclude participation on grounds of disability, or geographical location or any other factor we can reasonably address.
> 
> This is why we initially looked to the email group as the easiest and most barrier-free way for people to be able to follow and contribute to discussions, along with a wiki for collaborative authoring of content. 
> 
> Teleconferences by their nature have issues for people who aren't present due to scheduling issues, and for people who can't access the audio channel. So we initially planned to use them only as supplementary ways to communicate, and notify all group members in advance via the group email.
> 
> Like all grassroots and voluntary efforts, we have to balance cost and time considerations with getting the group talking in the most inclusive way possible. Providing detailed minutes from the teleconference is our first effort at letting people who weren't present know what happened and what decisions were made. One additional channel we could use in the future to support teleconferences is IRC, as is used by W3C working groups I've been involved in.
> 
> If there is consensus amongst group members that this isn't sufficient, and that we should provide audio recordings and transcripts of all of our teleconferences, then we need to find a way to do this in the most timely and cost-effective way. 
> 
> Your views on the best way forward would be very welcome.
> 
> Thanks!
> Dave
> 
> David Sloan
> 
> UX Research Lead
> The Paciello Group
> dsloan@paciellogroup.com
> 
> 
> 
> On 15 Aug 2015, at 15:57, David Berman | 613-728-6777 <berman@davidberman.com> wrote:
> 
>> Indeed.
>> 
>> I often think of e-learning as simply a basket of temporary disabilities to be overcome in comparison to being in the same time and space as the conventional classroom.
>> So it would be especially ironic if our distance meetings were not accessible to all.
>> 
>> Regards,
>> David B.
>> 
>> On 2015-08-15 09:46, Laura Carlson wrote:
>>> Hi David and all,
>>> 
>>> If we consider providing mp3s of meetings we should consider 
>>> providing transcripts too for any people who are deaf or hard of hearing.
>>> 
>>> Kindest Regards,
>>> Laura
>>> 
>>> On 8/15/15, David Sloan
>>> <dsloan@paciellogroup.com>
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Hi Marvin
>>>> 
>>>> I'm sorry, we didn't record the call. Hopefully the notes give you a 
>>>> good sense of discussions, but if you need clarification on anything 
>>>> noted, please just ask.
>>>> 
>>>> That said, recording is something we could definitely consider for 
>>>> the next call, if there is demand and participants are happy for 
>>>> calls to be recorded.
>>>> 
>>>> Dave
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> On 15 Aug 2015, at 03:14, Marvin Hunkin <startrekcafe@gmail.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Hi.
>>>>> Did you record this, and if so, can I have the mp3.
>>>>> Never got notified.
>>>>> Thanks.
>>>>> 
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: David Sloan [
>>>>> mailto:dsloan@paciellogroup.com
>>>>> ]
>>>>> Sent: Saturday, 15 August 2015 3:40 AM
>>>>> To: 
>>>>> public-accesslearn@w3.org
>>>>> 
>>>>> Subject: Notes from AccessLearn teleconference
>>>>> 
>>>>> Hi all
>>>>> 
>>>>> Thanks to everyone who took part in the first AccessLearn Community 
>>>>> Group call earlier this week! Here are some notes from the discussions.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Present:
>>>>> 
>>>>> * David Sloan
>>>>> * Sarah Horton
>>>>> * Lisa Snider
>>>>> * David Berman
>>>>> * Madeline Rothberg
>>>>> * Laura Carlson
>>>>> * Todd Weissenberger
>>>>> * Elizabeth Greenwood
>>>>> * Simon Ball
>>>>> * Shawn Henry
>>>>> * Ted Gies
>>>>> * Marcie Dimac
>>>>> * Gary Ritter
>>>>> * Sushil Oswal
>>>>> * Armony Altinier
>>>>> * Mary Ziegler
>>>>> 
>>>>> 1. Background
>>>>> 
>>>>> 1.1 Agenda description
>>>>> 
>>>>> Brief description of W3C Community Groups and the creation of the 
>>>>> AccessLearn CG. Other W3C accessibility efforts (e.g. the WCAG WG, 
>>>>> EO
>>>>> WG).)
>>>>> 
>>>>> 1.2 Notes
>>>>> 
>>>>> * Working as a community group, more informal than W3C group, we 
>>>>> are exploring how best to work as a community group.
>>>>> * Survey: Over 70 responses, posting summaries to public CG list. 
>>>>> Results confirmed views of why we should have a community group, 
>>>>> particularly the comments about lack of knowledge being a barrier 
>>>>> to producing accessible online experiences.
>>>>> * David Berman: Is the survey still open? [Yes, will share the link 
>>>>> with the minutes.] Research for School of Public Service in Canada, 
>>>>> also found the challenge of awareness, challenge of lack of 
>>>>> software platforms that support creation of accessible online 
>>>>> experiences.
>>>>> * David Sloan: Is there anything we can do in this group to 
>>>>> influence market? Will need to understand more about what keeps 
>>>>> vendors for using accessible best practices in creating their products.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 2. Aims:
>>>>> 
>>>>> 2.1 Agenda description
>>>>> 
>>>>> Based on the survey, here are some areas we could focus on:
>>>>> 
>>>>> * What additional resources are needed to help people use existing 
>>>>> WAI guidelines to create accessible online learning resources? The 
>>>>> survey indicated lack of knowledge amongst content creators was the 
>>>>> biggest challenge to accessible online
>>>>> * What can W3C do to create connections between WAI guidelines and 
>>>>> non-W3C standards that could help promote accessible online 
>>>>> learning? Other standards exist, particularly those from IMS, and 
>>>>> there are also CAST's UDL guidelines. Do we need to work to build 
>>>>> bridges between these and WCAG?
>>>>> * What areas do we have to define are out of scope for a W3C WG, 
>>>>> even if they are considered important for accessible online 
>>>>> learning, but may require focus separately, e.g., tools for online 
>>>>> video accessibility, legislation and education accessibility?
>>>>> * What wheels do we need to avoid reinventing?
>>>>> 
>>>>> 2.2 Notes
>>>>> 
>>>>> * Intention to exchange information to understand how existing 
>>>>> resources help/hinder creation of accessible online learning.
>>>>> * Gap analysis could be a general focus of the group.
>>>>> * Has been lots of work underway outside of W3C. How best do we 
>>>>> reconcile this work with the W3C work?
>>>>> * David Berman: With course materials, went through A and AA, 
>>>>> attempted to match up with popular elearning authoring tools and 
>>>>> conference platforms.
>>>>> Possible goal to consider WCAG2 Accessible Online Learning document.
>>>>> * Simon Ball: Did assignment  to look at institutions, looks at 
>>>>> existing guidelines, identify gaps, asked educators what do they 
>>>>> have to do to these resources to make them useful for their 
>>>>> teaching. Replied that they need to mash existing guidelines with 
>>>>> teaching principles and institutional elearning strategies.
>>>>> * Ted Gies: Producer of online learning systems, one challenge is 
>>>>> that there are repeatable design patterns (consuming content, 
>>>>> evaluating learning), is there a usable and accessible solution? 
>>>>> Are there proven design patterns?
>>>>> Are there personas? Would like guidance on finite set of elearning 
>>>>> design patterns.
>>>>> * Madeline Rothberg: Co-Chair of IMS guidelines, looking to update 
>>>>> the guidelines. Leadership coming from online learning industry 
>>>>> (publishers, learning software vendors-vendors who want to make 
>>>>> products more accessible). Will be seeking to coordinate efforts, 
>>>>> encourage people to join group and help shape guidelines. IMS and 
>>>>> W3C currently collaborating in EDUPUB area.
>>>>> * Todd Weissenberger: CIC workgroup composed of CIOs to further 
>>>>> accessibility initiatives. Have just started a subgroup focused on 
>>>>> teaching/learning and accessibility.
>>>>> * Sushil Oswal: Suggestion to compile list of activities people are 
>>>>> involved in to share with group, share activities and how they tie 
>>>>> into focus of AccessLearn group.
>>>>> * Ted Gies: Would be helpful to highlight best-in-class examples of 
>>>>> online learning.
>>>>> * Armony Altinier: How we learn is influenced by language, would be 
>>>>> helpful to translate work of group to other languages, e.g., 
>>>>> survey.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 2.3 Proposed activities:
>>>>> 
>>>>> * Define scope of effort/attention of CG
>>>>>   * e.g., authoring tools, conferencing platforms
>>>>> * Inventory existing resources
>>>>>   * Existing resources including and beyond W3C (to avoid 
>>>>> reinventing
>>>>> wheels)
>>>>>   * Institutional standards (e.g., Open University in UK has
>>>>> guidelines)
>>>>> * Identify pattern libraries
>>>>>   *Are there usable and accessible pattern libraries to support
>>>>> * Inventory/coordinate with other efforts
>>>>>   * Coordinate with IMS guidelines activities
>>>>>   *CIC workgroup
>>>>> * Identify exemplars
>>>>>   *Best practice examples to spotlight where people are doing 
>>>>> things right
>>>>> * Issue survey in other languages
>>>>>   * Widen view of what can be done to make improvements in online 
>>>>> learning
>>>>> 
>>>>> 3. Logistics:
>>>>> 
>>>>> 3.1 Agenda description
>>>>> 
>>>>> * How do we define a work plan?
>>>>> * How will the group organise its work, given its current 
>>>>> constraints (discussion but no publication)?
>>>>> * What tools should the group use to help it do its work?
>>>>> * How will it work with other W3C groups?
>>>>> * Scheduling, reporting, communication.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 3.2 Notes
>>>>> 
>>>>> * Working group charter: draft charter and share with group so 
>>>>> members can review and respond
>>>>>   * Sushil, Sarah. Others? Please let us know if you would like to 
>>>>> join this effort.
>>>>> * Set up wiki to compile resources: more information to come
>>>>> * Reach out more broadly
>>>>>   * Armony will produce survey in French. Simon to assist with 
>>>>> distribution, plus others who can help.
>>>>> * Survey: Take the survey to another level, analyze and use results
>>>>>   * Mary, Dave. Others? Please let us know if you would like to 
>>>>> join this effort.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 4. Next steps:
>>>>> 
>>>>> * Meet by teleconference again in two months, date to be confirmed
>>>>> 
>>>>> David Sloan
>>>>> 
>>>>> UX Research Lead
>>>>> The Paciello Group
>>>>> 
>>>>> dsloan@paciellogroup.com
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>> 
>>> 
>> 
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