Re: Interactive Widget Nit: Sec 3.2.4

Lionel to be clear, I wasn't including the low vision -- their technologies
can be affected by the widgets. I was referring to users who don't know
that nearly all of the overlay widget settings can be configured within the
browser or at the OS level.

But, as you say, this is a discussion for another day....after I've had at
least 3 more coffees!

Mike

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On Fri, Oct 17, 2025 at 10:09 AM Lionel Wolberger <lionel@userway.org>
wrote:

> I am also OK with removing the phrase.
>
> I appreciate Mike’s reiterating that a visible interactive widget helps
> low vision and elderly users, a demographic and use case often overlooked
> in the overlay debate. That said, we do not need to revisit that debate in
> this section.
>
>
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> Thanks for your notes, Jason. Having reviewed Janina's original proposal
> (and your approval), I too approve the removal of the phrase: "through an
> interactive widget."
>
> Apologies for complicating the issue.
>
> -Mike
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> On Fri, Oct 17, 2025 at 9:15 AM Jason Taylor <jason@usablenet.com> wrote:
>
> Hi Michael
>
> Could you clarify if you feel we should keep or remove. My feeling is that
> Janina is referencing how we stress the capabilities covered do not require
> or add additional UI elements , which this capability references or implies
> you add a UI element that is not there for other uses, as opposed to
> updating the code to allow for a users own ability to decide if they want
> to add something.
>
> However, there is a case for framing this as a “user authorized” technic
> that is a user decides this is a capability they would like “more ready at
> hand” than in the browser settings, there is no harm in providing.
>
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> On Oct 17, 2025, at 9:07 AM, Michael Paciello <
> michael.paciello@audioeye.com> wrote:
>
> 
> This is just my opinion, so take it for what it’s worth:
>
> If we position/acknowledge that a (the) use case for overlay widgets are
> older adults and uninformed users (i.e., users who are not aware of or know
> how to set the accessibility settings in their browsers or operating
> systems), then this issue of removing the term “overlay” becomes moot. More
> importantly, it removes a significant portion of the argument about
> overlays and people with disabilities.
>
> Mike
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> On Fri, Oct 17, 2025 at 7:17 AM Jason Taylor <jason@usablenet.com> wrote:
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> Agree this should be removed
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> On Oct 17, 2025, at 4:08 AM, Janina Sajka <janina@a11y.nyc> wrote:
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> Current text has:
>
> Some users need enlarged, or perhaps diminished fonts in order to read
> content comfortably. This capability allows increased or decreased font
> size adjustments through an interactive widget.
>
> Q: Is this an exception that proves our no widgets rule? is their
> objection to removing the phrase: "through an interactive widget?"
>
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