- From: Michael Paciello <michael.paciello@audioeye.com>
- Date: Thu, 3 Jul 2025 09:09:57 -0400
- To: Janina Sajka <janina@rednote.net>
- Cc: Lionel Wolberger <lionel.wolberger@levelaccess.com>, Accessibility at the Edge <public-a11yedge@w3.org>
- Message-ID: <CAHHsWU=hqaB-dzB+-tawXH4t9a2AU3-Ov-nafNcLthAVHVhfTA@mail.gmail.com>
I am leaning towards Janina's reasoning. However, perhaps the adjustment can be introduced in the introduction/preface of the document. Drive home both the meaning and objective. -Mike Mike Paciello Chief Accessibility Officer michael.paciello@audioeye.com +1.603.484.1938 [image: AudioEye Registered Trademark Logo] [image: Follow us on LinkedIn for more accessibility tips!] <https://www.linkedin.com/company/audioeye-inc/> On Thu, Jul 3, 2025 at 8:56 AM Janina Sajka <janina@rednote.net> wrote: > Hi Lionel, All: > > My quick, off the top of my head, initial response is "No" because: > > * It is very late in the process and every occurance would need to > * be hand reviewed for skewed meaning. Think another multiweek > * delay when I'm getting ready to be on vacation for two weeks > * late July. > > * WCAG uses the same term but with arguably a different meaning. > * Even if we align that we're using "outcome" with the same > * meaning as WCAG, we'd forever be explaining ourselves about > * that. > > * The syntactical/grammatical meaning shifts with this edit in > * ways that give me pause. I can't take the time to explain this > * just now as I have a call, but it's significant and should be > * very carefully considered. This is actually my biggest reason > * for no. Short version is meaning shifts to a result we claim > * rather than a technology we supply. > > Best, > Janina > > Lionel Wolberger writes: > > Hi Community Group, > > > > During our last telecon, we discussed a potentially meaningful shift: > replacing the term ?capabilities? with ?outcomes? throughout the document. > > > > This adjustment would align us more closely with current accessibility > frameworks?particularly WCAG?which emphasize user-centered design and > real-world results. While ?capabilities? suggests potential, ?outcomes? > speaks directly to what is achieved and experienced by users. This framing > may better support our goals and the practical needs of the market. > > > > That said, this would be a significant terminological change at a late > stage in the publishing cycle. > > > > I'd like a quick temperature check: are folks open to even considering > making this shift? > > > > > > > > -- > > Lionel Wolberger, Ph.D. > > VP Business Operations > > Level Access > > https://levelaccess.com > > https://userway.org > > -- > > Janina Sajka (she/her/hers) > Accessibility Consultant https://linkedin.com/in/jsajka > > The World Wide Web Consortium (W3C), Web Accessibility Initiative (WAI) > Co-Chair, Accessible Platform Architectures http://www.w3.org/wai/apa > > Linux Foundation Fellow > https://www.linuxfoundation.org/board-of-directors-2/ > > > -- The information in this communication is intended for the use of the individual or entity to which it is addressed, and may contain information that is PRIVILEGED, CONFIDENTIAL and/or exempt from disclosure under law. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited.
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