Re: Functional Needs sub-group 16 July 2020

Thanks Charles, I deleted a column for user needs and added them as a
in-between-relationship for Functional Needs / Functional Outcomes.
Same user need can be added in as much cells as needed, just for the
experiment.
I think we need to focus on un-equality and add the needs for them, not all
needs shared by all ("Users perceive headings" for all doesn't solve
anything / is of no use)

Do you see value in this as start for some Functional needs and Outcomes as
a glue?

Op zo 19 jul. 2020 om 16:48 schreef Charles Hall <hallmediamobile@gmail.com
>:

> I think all organizational models and visualizations are helpful at this
> point.
> I find it difficult to view this spreadsheet with the amount of vertical
> space constrained by locked rows.
>
> I infer from the table that the relationship here is that one functional
> need aligns to one user need aligns to many functional outcomes. So, I am
> not sure that scales to {n} user needs. But that depends on consensus of a
> definition of user needs.
>
> Michael described this once as a matrix. It is quite possible that there
> is a many-to-many relationship. My hope is that if we start from the
> Functional Needs, it could be expressed in a one-to-many relationship.
> Noting of course that several Functional Needs would have the same User
> Needs and the same Functional Outcomes. The variants would almost entirely
> be in aligning Functional Needs to Guidelines and Methods and not to User
> Needs and Functional Outcomes. The reason being, that everyone needs to
> (from the example) understand the headings, but WHAT they need in order to
> have that outcome varies by the Functional Need and that variance is
> described in Methods. So, I am not sure something like the following would
> be useful at all.
>
> One Functional Need
>
>    - Use without vision
>
> Many User Needs (within the scope of a goal, a path, a process, a flow, or
> a task)
>
>    - I need to pay a bill (without vision)
>    - I need to buy a thing
>    - I need to change my account info
>    - I need to find a contractor
>    - I need to research a health symptom
>
> Many Many Functional Outcomes (within the scope of a guideline and its
> methods)
>
>    - I perceived the headings (without vision, while paying a bill; while
>    buying a thing…)
>    - I understood the headings
>    - I found the correct action
>    - I activated the control
>    - I received feedback of the success state of the action
>
>
> If the definition of Functional Outcomes remains the two-part version from
> the Content Migration Guide –  a clause that describes the result if the
> user need is being met and a clause that describes how it benefits the user
> – then, the major difference in approach is that Functional Outcomes will
> be more specific and align to fewer Functional Needs. Which also means
> there will be many more Functional Outcomes.
>
> In this Functional Outcomes example, “[Uses visually distinct headings]
> [so sighted readers can determine the structure].”, all Functional Needs
> apply except Use without vision and Use without vision and hearing.
> In this example, “Users perceive headings.”, all Functional Needs apply.
> In either format, the same Functional Outcome is replicated by the
> Functional Needs.
>
> Charles Hall
>
> Senior Accessibility Designer
> Invited Expert, W3C AGWG & Silver TF
> Chair, W3C IDIW CG
> Member, Ferndale Accessibility & Inclusion Advisory Commission
>
> On Jul 19, 2020, at 9:20 AM, jake abma <jake.abma@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1MTT_CV4HaHGUOuAUdQR3Wb61JxfXMNTFffcyTi0_wTI/edit#gid=1290202920
>
> Op zo 19 jul. 2020 om 15:20 schreef jake abma <jake.abma@gmail.com>:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> Created a spreadsheet with the Master List and another column for User
>> Needs and mapping to functional outcomes.
>> Just for a small exercise would this be interesting to see to add some
>> user needs AND some functional outcomes?
>>
>> If we have such a sample, we might be able to better judge relations and
>> how to test the functional outcomes.
>>
>> If agreed I can continue the spreadsheet and fill in some data.
>> Please let me know what you think.
>>
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Jake
>>
>> Op do 16 jul. 2020 om 01:25 schreef Michael Cooper <cooper@w3.org>:
>>
>>> Reminder the functional needs group will meet at 11:30 Boston time on 16
>>> July. I haven't had time to prepare and agenda, but we'll have plenty to
>>> talk about. Telecon:
>>> https://www.w3.org/2017/08/telecon-info_a11y-functional
>>>
>>> Michael
>>>
>>
>