- From: Dick Hardt <dick.hardt@gmail.com>
- Date: Mon, 2 Mar 2026 17:19:01 +0100
- To: Martin Thomson <mt@lowentropy.net>
- Cc: ietf-http-wg@w3.org
- Message-ID: <CAD9ie-t_M4uWsTn4esJ30ZmZ-Q2XtEd6graewNkcGHMoN6=epQ@mail.gmail.com>
Hey I just saw this thread -- I did not know a call for adoption had been issued -- I plan on presenting remotely at the next meeting. I just published a minor update to use base64 for the x509 scheme per Martin's suggestion. Martin: If I understand your comment correctly, you are suggesting that only some schemes will be used, and they will be used in isolated ecosystems? I'll share use cases that span hwk, jws_uri, and jwt -- x509 is there because lots of infrastructure uses it so we thought we should define something rather than not. /Dick On Fri, Feb 13, 2026 at 7:14 AM Martin Thomson <mt@lowentropy.net> wrote: > I'd like to see more discussion on use cases that would motivate the > panoply of formats that this proposes. It might be better, in the spirit > of RFC 9170, to have multiple fields rather than a single field with such > extreme diversity as this proposes. > > I know that it's tempting to try to sweep all the use cases away in one > action, but what the proposed design is more likely to produce (in my view, > at least) is some successful variants, some unsuccessful variants, and a > whole bunch of interoperability failure as people use incompatible > variants. The only outcomes that will be interoperable are (again, my > prediction) is isolated ecosystems that happily use their chosen variants, > or less isolated ecosystems that pick a single, de-facto winner. > > On Fri, Feb 13, 2026, at 15:06, Tommy Pauly wrote: > > Hi HTTP, > > > > As this email notes, we’re starting a call for adoption on > > draft-hardt-httpbis-signature-key. We’ve had some discussion on list, > > and also would plan to have time at IETF 125 to discuss. Please take a > > look and let us know if you think this a document the working group > > should adopt. > > > > Best, > > Tommy > > > >> On Feb 12, 2026, at 8:04 PM, Tommy Pauly via Datatracker < > noreply@ietf.org> wrote: > >> > >> This message starts a httpbis WG Call for Adoption of: > >> draft-hardt-httpbis-signature-key-01 > >> > >> This Working Group Call for Adoption ends on 2026-02-26 > >> > >> Abstract: > >> This document defines the Signature-Key HTTP header field for > >> distributing public keys used to verify HTTP Message Signatures as > >> defined in RFC 9421. Four initial key distribution schemes are > >> defined: pseudonymous inline keys (hwk), identified signers with JWKS > >> URI discovery (jwks_uri), X.509 certificate chains (x509), and JWT- > >> based delegation (jwt). These schemes enable flexible trust models > >> ranging from privacy-preserving pseudonymous verification to PKI- > >> based identity chains and horizontally-scalable delegated > >> authentication. > >> > >> Please reply to this message and indicate whether or not you support > adoption > >> of this Internet-Draft by the httpbis WG. Comments to explain your > preference > >> are greatly appreciated. Please reply to all recipients of this message > and > >> include this message in your response. > >> > >> Authors, and WG participants in general, are reminded of the > Intellectual > >> Property Rights (IPR) disclosure obligations described in BCP 79 [2]. > >> Appropriate IPR disclosures required for full conformance with the > provisions > >> of BCP 78 [1] and BCP 79 [2] must be filed, if you are aware of any. > >> Sanctions available for application to violators of IETF IPR Policy can > be > >> found at [3]. > >> > >> Thank you. > >> [1] https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/bcp78/ > >> [2] https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/bcp79/ > >> [3] https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/rfc6701/ > >> > >> The IETF datatracker status page for this Internet-Draft is: > >> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-hardt-httpbis-signature-key/ > >> > >> There is also an HTML version available at: > >> > https://www.ietf.org/archive/id/draft-hardt-httpbis-signature-key-01.html > >> > >> A diff from the previous version is available at: > >> > https://author-tools.ietf.org/iddiff?url2=draft-hardt-httpbis-signature-key-01 > >
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