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Re: Proposal for new `Partitioned` cookie attribute

From: Mark Nottingham <mnot@mnot.net>
Date: Mon, 10 May 2021 12:07:57 +1000
Cc: "ietf-http-wg@w3.org Group" <ietf-http-wg@w3.org>, Dylan Cutler <dylancutler@google.com>
Message-Id: <E1D9DB34-88AA-4DCE-AD81-9345CC53C159@mnot.net>
To: Kaustubha Govind <kaustubhag@google.com>
Hi Kaustubha,

Thanks for bringing up a proposal. It doesn't appear that you're currently asking for adoption in RFC6265bis (which would be required to standardise it, since cookies don't allow independent extension), but FYI for when you're ready:

The process that we've agreed to for RFC6265bis is that all proposals for new features and substantial changes need to go through a consensus-building process before they can be incorporated into the document.[1]

For it to be considered, you'll need to write it up as an Internet-Draft (so that it has the appropriate IPR declarations, among other reasons). If necessary, we can get someone to help you with that.

Then, we'll discuss it on-list, and optionally you can present something in one of our meetings. Provided that initial feedback is positive, we'll do a Call for Adoption; if the bar described in [1] is met, we'll take it on and the editors will start incorporating it into the document.

Note that we don't recognise the WICG as having any weight in this process.

Feel free to ask if you have any questions about the process, and if/when you're ready to move forward, please tell us.

Cheers,


1. https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/ietf-http-wg/2015OctDec/0165.html


> On 1 May 2021, at 2:31 am, Kaustubha Govind <kaustubhag@google.com> wrote:
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> I am part of the Chrome team working to phase-out third-party cookies; and would like to invite your feedback on our proposal to introduce a new `Partitioned` cookie attribute: https://github.com/DCtheTall/CHIPS
> 
> While third-party (cross-domain) cookies enable tracking across the web, there are also use cases on the web today where cross-domain subresources require some notion of session or persistent state. In these scenarios, the intention for the cookies is not to track across sites, but to provide a notion of session (or state) to embedders for a user's activity within a single top-level context.
> 
> Our proposal is to introduce a new opt-in cookie attribute, `Partitioned`, which servers can use to indicate they’d wish to set a cross-site cookie which is partitioned by top-level site.
> 
> I should also point out that Firefox recently started partitioning all third-party cookies by default in the ETP Strict mode [1]. We prefer an opt-in approach to ensure that developers fully understand what semantics to expect, and avoid potential confusion and site compatibility issues. In addition, the WebKit team also recently proposed using the Storage Access API to allow embeds to optionally request access to partitioned cookies [2]. We think using a cookie attribute will be more efficient than a JavaScript-based approach.
> 
> The motivation for this work is that when major browsers no longer support unpartitioned third-party cookies, these Partitioned cookies should not be subject to the same cross-site cookie restrictions as unpartitioned third-party cookies. This would allow third parties to continue to use cookies without giving them the capability of storing cross-site identifiers on users’ machines.
> 
> We understand that this attribute will likely not be applicable to all HTTP clients. At this time, we would like to incubate the idea in the WICG and are asking for feedback/support here: https://discourse.wicg.io/t/proposal-cookies-having-independent-partitioned-state-chips/5290
> 
> Thank you,
> Kaustubha Govind
> Engineering Manager, Chrome
> 
> [1] https://hacks.mozilla.org/2021/02/introducing-state-partitioning/
> [2] https://github.com/privacycg/storage-access/issues/75

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