- From: Jim Manico <jim@manico.net>
- Date: Sat, 4 Apr 2015 14:02:11 -0700
- To: Max Bruce <max.bruce12@gmail.com>
- Cc: "Walter H." <Walter.H@mathemainzel.info>, "ietf-http-wg@w3.org" <ietf-http-wg@w3.org>
- Message-Id: <5BEA09A4-3374-4CAA-8D43-D51645CFDC6F@manico.net>
It's not •likely• to be an issue for short lived sessions but it could happen. -- Jim Manico @Manicode (808) 652-3805 > On Apr 4, 2015, at 1:47 PM, Max Bruce <max.bruce12@gmail.com> wrote: > > That isn't an issue for a session that's supposed to end 5 minutes or so after it begins. > >> On Sat, Apr 4, 2015 at 9:12 AM, Jim Manico <jim@manico.net> wrote: >> In the world of auto-updating browsers and therefor auto-updating user-agents, tying authentication to a user agent could have unintended negative consequences. >> >> Tying authN to an IP address also has negative unintended consequences, like being on a mobile network while traveling, or being behind certain gateways - your IP address may change in short timespans. >> >> -- >> Jim Manico >> @Manicode >> (808) 652-3805 >> >>> On Apr 4, 2015, at 3:18 AM, Max Bruce <max.bruce12@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>> The session ID is a cookie, so in the headers. And yes, because it also checks that cookie, which is randomly generated. It just enforces a user-agent server-side. It DID enforce an IP, but I removed this for other reasons discussed earlier. >>> >>>> On Sat, Apr 4, 2015 at 2:49 AM, Walter H. <Walter.H@mathemainzel.info> wrote: >>>> let me ask it different: where is the Session ID, is it part of a http-header, part of a html-header, a session-cookie, or is it part of the URL itself that is requested? >>>> >>>> the second: two ident configured hosts behind NAT do not differ neither in the user agent nor in the IP address; they only differ in the source TCP-port ... >>>> >>>>> On 03.04.2015 09:13, Max Bruce wrote: >>>>> When you say transmitting from host to server, what do you mean? >>>>> And yes, if I understand what your asking. It effectively compiled a random hash, and then enforced an IP & user agent. I have recently removed the IP enforecement though. >>>>> >>>>> On Fri, Apr 3, 2015 at 12:10 AM, Walter H. <Walter.H@mathemainzel.info> wrote: >>>>>> On 01.04.2015 21:48, Max Bruce wrote: >>>>>> What about linking to several? I wrote a session system for my Web Server that will only allow access to the original Session ID if the IP & User-Agent has remained unchanged, in order to protect against session hijacking. I've found it's highly effective, unless you IP Spoof. >>>>> what kind of mechanism do you use for transmitting the Session ID from host to server? >>>>> does it prevent access from an ident configured but different host behind a NAT? >
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