- From: Roberto Peon <grmocg@gmail.com>
- Date: Thu, 15 Aug 2013 13:00:25 -0700
- To: HTTP Working Group <ietf-http-wg@w3.org>
- Message-ID: <CAP+FsNfUVF1qiwgESrcxg9EwvsnELMmfyLdgHFA4R89n2HEFbw@mail.gmail.com>
https://github.com/http2/http2-spec/issues/233 #### summary of github issue chatter ### Currently, index 0 is the 'top' of the table, and when a new header is added using incremental indexing, it is added at the 'bottom' (i.e. the highest number index). This is potentially problematic from a compression-efficacy standpoint-- data analysis shows that newly added items are the most likely to be reused or removed from the reference set, and thus most likely to be referred to again. This implies that we should change the spec to insert headers inserted via incremental indexing into position '0' (i.e. the top) jpinner commenteda day ago Does this also imply that eviction should occur from the "bottom" of the table? grmocg commented21 hours ago eviction from the bottom == oldest entry dies first when all one is using is incremental indexing. With substitution indexing, that isn't true. I'm happy with either one, but I imagine that Herve might prefer one over the other. grmocg commented21 hours ago And I'm fine with either, because I intend to only do incremental indexing, since my research as shown it to be as good or better than substitution (at least so far), and because I know that incremental indexing is suitable to use in a world where we have something like TCP-minion or SCTP doing out-of-order-delivery without HOL blocking at the compressor (with a couple of small modifications). jpinner commented21 hours ago Does the small modification require you to expose the sequence number? grmocg commented21 hours ago Precisely! jpinner commented20 hours ago An argument to drop substitution indexing from the spec? grmocg commented20 hours ago Thusfar, we're assuming TCP transport, and I can imagine that substitution has the capacity to help out there, but I imagine it wont help on substrates like TCP-Minion, SCTP, etc. On those transports substitution indexing probably hurts more than it helps. #### end summary of github issue chatter ### We absolutely should not close this issue without ensuring Herve has a chance to chime in, but we can discuss for now. I can attempt to channel Herve as much as possible in the interim (it will be a poor imitation indeed, but better than nothing). -=R
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