- From: Yuchung Cheng <ycheng@google.com>
- Date: Fri, 9 Aug 2013 12:16:56 -0700
- To: Joe Touch <touch@isi.edu>
- Cc: Patrick McManus <mcmanus@ducksong.com>, "tcpm@ietf.org" <tcpm@ietf.org>, "Mankin, Allison" <amankin@verisign.com>, Mark Nottingham <mnot@pobox.com>, "ietf-http-wg@w3.org" <ietf-http-wg@w3.org>
On Fri, Aug 9, 2013 at 12:02 PM, Joe Touch <touch@isi.edu> wrote: > > > On Aug 9, 2013, at 11:58 AM, Joe Touch <touch@isi.edu> wrote: > >> >> >> On 8/9/2013 10:33 AM, Yuchung Cheng wrote: >>> This paper has some interesting analysis >>> http://conferences.sigcomm.org/sigcomm/2000/conf/paper/sigcomm2000-9-1.pdf >>> >>> ""After an analysis we conclude that the checksum will fail to detect >>> errors for roughly 1 in 16 million to 10 billion packets. From our >>> analysis of the cause of errors"" >>> >>> It's no longer a small chance given the Web page size today. >> >> 16 million would be 22 megabytes, but that TCP isn't the only place that errors are detected. > > Make that gigabytes. Which I also doubt is a common web anything. Yeah I thought so too. But the fact this is raised in the httpbis/tsv joint meeting means I was wrong. This is the exact point of having more joint meeting to bridge httpbis/tsv. > >> There's the link layer on each link, and the application layer. It's not clear that we actually do need to rely on TCP to detect such problems. >> >> However, if that's not enough, simply using security (IPsec, TLS) would protected much better. >> >> Joe
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