- From: TEVFİK ŞAHİN <tevfik.sahin@turktelekom.com.tr>
- Date: Sun, 26 Feb 2012 15:05:17 +0000
- To: Mark Nottingham <mnot@mnot.net>, Yoav Nir <ynir@checkpoint.com>
- CC: The IESG <iesg@ietf.org>, "ietf-http-wg@w3.org Group" <ietf-http-wg@w3.org>, IETF-Discussion Discussion <ietf@ietf.org>
Zc -----Original Message----- From: Yoav Nir Sent: 26.02.2012, 11:45 To: Mark Nottingham Cc: The IESG; ietf-http-wg@w3.org Group; IETF-Discussion Discussion Subject: Re: WG Review: Recharter of Hypertext Transfer Protocol Bis (httpbis) On Feb 26, 2012, at 2:44 AM, Mark Nottingham wrote: > >> >> I proposed a plan that I think might allow us to make progress >> on that. I believe we could. > > OK, great. > > Could you please explain why you think tying this effort to HTTP/2.0 is necessary to achieve that? To me that's the critical bit, and I still haven't seen the reasoning (perhaps I missed it). I think I have *an* answer to this, though probably not *the* answer. There's two stages to adoption - implementation and roll-out. Obviously you can't roll out "new authentication" before the browsers and servers implement it. For my website, I wouldn't roll out new auth if only one or two of the browsers out there implemented it. Even if all the big ones (IE, Firefox, Chrome, Opera) did, I would still have to provide a backwards compatibility authentication scheme to support older browsers. This would lead to both inconsistent UI and to ugly javascript that detects the browser version, and makes the roll-out slower. If any HTTP/2.0 browser is bound to have "new authentication" it makes things much easier. This could be circumvented by adding request headers that advertise capabilities, but I don't think we like those much. Yoav _______________________________________________ Ietf mailing list Ietf@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf “This Message (including any attachments) contains confidential information and is intended only for the individual named. If you are not the named adressee or not related with the content of this Message, you are forbidden to read, disseminate, distribute, copy, reproduce or modify this mail by our Company. Please notfy the sender immediately if you have received this e-mail by mistake and delete this e-mail from your system. E-mail transmisson can not be guaranteed to be secure or error-free as the mail may arrive late or incomplete or the information could be intercepted, corrupted, lost, destroyed, amended, , or contain viruses. The sender therefore does not accept liability for any errors, loss of integrity or confidentiality or ommissions in the contents of this Message or for the information transmission, reception, storage of use of such in any way whatsoever, which arise as a result of e-mail transmission. Any opinions expressed in this message are those of the author and may not necessarily reflect the opinions of Our Company. Copyright in documents created by or on behalf of our Company remains vested in us, and we assert all of our moral and intellectual property rights.” “Bu mesaj (ve ekleri) gizli bilgi içermektedir ve sadece gönderilen kişiye yöneliktir. Bu e-mailin muhatabı değilseniz veya içeriği ile ilginiz yoksa, Şirketimizin onayı olmaksızın bu mesajın okunması, değiştirilmesi, kopyalanması, üçüncü kişilere açıklanması, yayınlanması, ifşa edilmesi veya iletilmesi yasaktır. Bu mesajın gönderilmek istendiği kişi değilseniz (ya da bu e-posta'yı yanlışlıkla aldıysanız), lütfen yollayan kişiyi hemen haberdar ediniz ve mesajı sisteminizden derhal siliniz. E-mail iletiminin güvenli veya hatasız olduğunun garantisi olmadığından geç veya eksik iletim veya içerik ve bilgilerde eksiklik, kayıp, değişiklik veya virüs olabilir. Bu nedenle, bu mesajın iletiminden dolayı, gönderen, içerikteki hata, eksiklik, doğruluğun ve gizliliğin ihlalinden veya bu yolla bilgi paylaşımı, iletimi, depolanması gibi herhangi bir kullanımından hiçbir şekilde sorumlu değildir. Bu mesajın içeriği yazarına ait olup, Şirketimizin görüşlerini içermeyebilir. Bu mesajın içeriğinde geçen Şirketimizin ad veya nanıma yaratılan fikri ve sınai haklar Şirketimize ait olup, maddi ve manevi tüm hakları Şirketimizde saklıdır.”
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