- From: Phil Archer <parcher@icra.org>
- Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2007 10:03:38 +0100
- To: "ietf-http-wg@w3.org Group" <ietf-http-wg@w3.org>
I've been following this particular thread (that started at [1] and was revisited earlier this week) and would like to offer some input in support of HTTP Link and HTTP Profile. The POWDER Working Group that I chair [2] has a need for these two headers to be available - and that need is very similar to that discussed for GRDDL, see Danny Ayers' and Harry Halpin's postings to this list [3]. In brief: the Protocol for Web Description Resources is about providing small amounts of metadata about a lot of resources for use cases ranging from trustmarks through child protection to licensing. Such descriptions are as applicable to things like images and movies as they are HTML documents - hence the need for an HTTP-based linking mechanism and the availability of something very much like HTML Profile so we can define what rel="powder" means. (As an aside, we'll be arguing for the retention of Profile which seems to be under threat at the moment in HTML 5 & XHTML 2 but that's a different matter). So the case for wanting Link and Profile to be standardised along the lines proposed by Mark Nottingham [4] is, I hope, clear. The current working draft of our primary technical document that mentions this (in section 4) is at [5]. As for implementation experience - I can offer plenty. Since I work in child protection, that's where my implementations come from but the case can readily be generalised. In short, HTTP Link headers work just fine if you want them to. An early study carried out by UK telco Kingston Communications in August 2004 showed that Apache servers could readily be configured to include and control Link Headers [6]. That work, and similar experiments I carried out on Microsoft IIS, was the basis for the advice offered to providers wishing to label their content with ICRA through an HTTP Link header [7]. Parsing those headers is easy, particularly so with Perl's LWP module [8]. As described in Sean M Burke's book, 'Perl & LWP' [9], "... By default, if the Response Object is an HTML object, its head section is parsed, and some of the content of the head tags is copied into the HTTP::Response object's headers." This includes Link tags so that, when using LWP,*there is no difference* between a Link expressed in HTML or HTTP. For example, [10] is the output of the ICRA label tester on an adult site that configured its Apache server following the advice at [7]. The relevant headers as displayed by the same tool when testing fosi.org, where the Link is expressed in HTML, look identical [11]. Extracting Link headers in a Java environment is trivial using, for example, the HTTPParseHeaders method, and in C++ you just split up the headers you have and look for what you want. ICRA's own free filter recognises HTTP Link headers too. In summary, POWDER is one of at least 2 W3C working groups that would like to see HTTP Link and HTTP Profile standardised. Our Rec Track documents should be at Last Call early next month with CR just squeaked in before the end of the year if possible. Obviously I'd be happy to discuss this further if required. Phil. [1] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/ietf-http-wg/2007JanMar/0129.html [2] http://www.w3.org/2007/powder/ [3] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/ietf-http-wg/2007JanMar/0146.html [4] http://www.mnot.net/drafts/draft-nottingham-http-link-header-00.txt [5] http://www.w3.org/TR/2007/WD-powder-dr-20070925/ [6] http://www.icra.org/archive/labellingWG/mod_headers/ [7] http://www.icra.org/systemspecification/#tagMethods [8] http://search.cpan.org/~gaas/libwww-perl-5.808/lib/LWP.pm [9] http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/perllwp/, page 42, Advanced Methods [10] http://www.icra.org/cgi-bin/rdf-tester/labelTester.cgi?lang=en&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww8.excitemoi.com&showHead=on&showContent=on [11] http://www.icra.org/cgi-bin/rdf-tester/labelTester.cgi?lang=en&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.fosi.org%2F&showHead=on&showContent=on -- Phil Archer Chief Technical Officer, Family Online Safety Institute w. http://www.fosi.org/people/philarcher/ Register now for the first, annual Family Online Safety Institute Conference and Exhibition, December 6th, 2007, Washington, DC. Go to: http://www.fosi.org/conference2007/ today!
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