- From: Dave Kristol <dmk@bell-labs.com>
- Date: Tue, 24 Feb 1998 16:39:59 -0500
- To: Jeffrey Mogul <mogul@pa.dec.com>
- Cc: http-wg@cuckoo.hpl.hp.com
Jeffrey Mogul wrote: > > Dave Kristol writes: > > 3) 13, Caching in HTTP > Last paragraph: I think something like the following needs to be > added at the end: > "In such cases, the design should also provide a way to inform the > end user of a break in transparency." > > Are you refering to this paragraph: > A basic principle is that it must be possible for the clients to detect > any potential relaxation of semantic transparency. > or to the "Note" that follows it? At any rate, just before the short > paragraph I quoted, we already have: That latter. > > 3. Protocol features that allow a cache to attach warnings to > responses that do not preserve the requested approximation of > semantic transparency. > > What exactly are we missing here? My marbles. :-) The warnings should suffice. > > 4) 13.11 Write-Through Mandatory > Suppose I want to add a custom method to HTTP, one of whose > side-effects would be to invalidate a cache entry. (Suppose > I were adding something comparable to DELETE, for example.) > How would the cache know it must invalidate the associated > resource? I don't think any of the Cache-Control directives > can tell the cache to discard an entry, can they? (And if they > could, that would be an interesting denial of service attack.) > > Note that 13.11 per se is not about invalidation (this is discussed in > other places); it's about requiring the cache to forward "all methods > that may be expected to cause modifications" to the origin server. > Which is another way of saying "if it's not GET or HEAD, a proxy must > forward it." > > One could certainly attack the intellectual basis for the > discussions (elsewhere) about invalidation. It's basically > impossible to do anything "correct", but we've added a few > stop-gap measures so that in the places where we know what is > going on, we can avoid obvious incoherencies. A custom method > is by definition not part of HTTP/1.1, so it's hard for us to > specify what it would do to a cache entry, but one could imagine > implementing a rule that "if you are forwarding a method that > you don't understand, you should also invalidate any cache > entries that might possibly be related to the Request-URI." Would it make sense to add words to that effect to the spec.? Or at least advice to implementers? > [...] Dave Kristol
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