- From: Roy T. Fielding <fielding@kiwi.ics.uci.edu>
- Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1998 11:20:13 -0700
- To: Henrik Frystyk Nielsen <frystyk@w3.org>
- cc: ietf-http-ext@w3.org
>There is a difference between the two statements: "I am capable of doing x" >and "I am using x". The former is a hint, the latter is a binding >statement. HTTP Extension Framework works the same was as authentication - >the client is not guaranteed success based on a hint but on what happens in >a particular HTTP transaction. Anything can happen in the intermediate time >frame. That's not true in practice. If you get a promise that something will be done, that promise is binding until such time as the promise expires. This is no different than the kind of transaction that takes place every time you buy something at a supermarket -- you don't have to wait til the checkout stand just to find out the item's price. Mistakes will occur, but the probability that a server will go from understanding the extension framework to not understanding it in less than half a second is far less than the probability that a resource is deleted halfway through a transaction (and all bets are off in that case). The HTTP Extension Framework requires two things: a way of indicating and carrying mandatory extensions within a message, and a way of ensuring that the recipient understands and will obey the framework. I have no problem with the solution to the former, but the latter stuff of adding an "M-" prefix to method names and twisting the protocol so that it intentionally breaks across 1.0 hops just plain sucks. That stuff will prevent the extension framework from being implemented on servers because it is too much cruft in comparison to how little benefit is achieved. Furthermore, it forces the server core to make capability decisions on behalf of its resources, rather than having the resource handler itself make that decision (as would happen with OPTIONS). Basically, it gives me the willies every time I look at it, and that's not a good sign for something I am expected to implement. I'd be a little happier if I knew of a scenario that preferred failure over best-effort without also requiring real transaction support, but I don't. ....Roy
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