- From: Patrik Fältström <paf@cisco.com>
- Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2001 19:52:53 +0100
- To: Jim Gettys <jg@pa.dec.com>, "Marshall T. Rose" <mrose+mtr.netnews@dbc.mtview.ca.us>
- cc: Jim Gettys <jg@pa.dec.com>, Discuss Apps <discuss@apps.ietf.org>, Marshall Rose <mrose@dbc.mtview.ca.us>
--On 01-11-28 10.31 -0800 Jim Gettys <jg@pa.dec.com> wrote: > So, by inaction, the IETF is likely condemned to the kludge tower growing > ever higher.... Someday it will fall over. Or maybe it is job security > for us all??? :-) There is another problem we have in the IETF, or two: - It is very hard to start from scratch with anything today. One have to come to the IETF with something which is so baked that it is almost ready to eat. Look at the IDN discussions where we are today. Completely useless discussions, to be honest. A correct design should have been made before the discussion started. - Coming up with something which is completely new is hard. Many people have to implement it, write code, etc etc. Incremental changes are easier. Much easier. This is why I feel so many people get "ok" from their companies to spend time using HTTP or whatever else which exists. "It exists" and they don't have to write things from the beginning again. I might be an optimistic person (I have to I guess :-) but I hope that people designing new things still see a value using IETF for review of new things. Generally, I do agree in your view that IETF doesn't understand needs from Applications. And I don't know what to do about it. I am listening. paf
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