- From: Jim Gettys <jg@pa.dec.com>
- Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2001 07:28:46 -0800 (PST)
- To: "Marshall T. Rose" <mrose+mtr.netnews@dbc.mtview.ca.us>
- Cc: Jim Gettys <jg@pa.dec.com>, Discuss Apps <discuss@apps.ietf.org>, Marshall Rose <mrose@dbc.mtview.ca.us>
The issue is really that the number of people who have designed protocols for even a large class of applications (e.g. Bob Scheifler's and my development of the X protocol), who are involved in the IETF is very low. For whatever reasons, the development of these general (or domain wide) protocols go on elsewhere. We are again observing this with XML/RPC, SOAP, etc. In fact, there seems to be some hostility toward these classes of protocols expressed by some of the IETF participants, along with some fundamental misunderstandings of requirements of application protocols by some truly talented IETF old-timers. Unless/until this changes, I don't see the IETF venue being useful beyond formal standardization of such a protocol framework "after the fact", as in what happened with HTTP. The unfortunate consequence is that alot of the kinds of interaction that should take place between the systems security and transports parts of the IETF does not, until it is too late. Can this get fixed? Dunno. But it is a summary of the situation from my perspective. - Jim -- Jim Gettys Cambridge Research Laboratory Compaq Computer Corporation jg@pa.dec.com
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