- From: Spencer Dawkins <sdawkins@home.com>
- Date: Sun, 17 Sep 2000 21:00:55 -0500
- To: <ietf-mmms@imc.org>
- Cc: <discuss@apps.ietf.org>, <ietf@ietf.org>
Patrik and I had a rapid-fire in-room discussion after the MMMS BOF in Washington. I walked away with the understanding that MMMS, or something like MMMS, would have the same role in the APPS area as PILC has in TSV. This was a sound-byte, of course, and not a charter, but it made sense to me at the time. And, just FYI, there is a certain amount of hand-waving in appendices of the PILC ERROR document, for instance, about the limits of what PILC can accomplish without a corresponding effort at the application level. Patrik's example of application-level stop-and-wait protocols ("enter userid", "enter password", etc.) shows the kind of interaction that TCP can't fix (if you wait a full round-trip for an answer before asking the next question and waiting some more, it doesn't really matter what TCP is trying to do underneath you, and heaven forbid you are doing this over geosynchronous satellite hops). If there was an MMMS, we would definitely hand this text off to MMMS (we're TSV weenies, after all). Spencer, PILC co-chair ----- Original Message ----- From: Allison Mankin <mankin@isi.edu> To: Patrik Fältström <paf@cisco.com> Cc: James P. Salsman <bovik@best.com>; <discuss@apps.ietf.org>; <ietf-mmms@imc.org>; <ietf@ietf.org> Sent: Sunday, September 17, 2000 2:24 PM Subject: Re: Mobile Multimedia Messaging Service > > I think this must be syncronized with the work of the PILC wg. See > > http://www.ietf.org/html.charters/pilc-charter.html. > > Patrik, thanks for drawing attention to this. Other activities > in the same arena that TSV has going on are ROHC and a proto-working > group (we'll be airing a draft charter for it soon) about end2end > considerations in mobility. It had a BOF (craps) in Pittsburgh, but the > scope of any WG will be more focuses than the BOF was. > > ROHC: http://www.ietf.org/html.charters/rohc-charter.html > > CRAPS: http://www2.ietf.org/proceedings/00jul/minutes/craps-00jul.txt > > Allison > > - > This message was passed through ietf+censored@alvestrand.no, which > is a sublist of ietf@ietf.org. Not all messages are passed. > Decisions on what to pass are made solely by Harald Alvestrand.
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