- From: Jim Whitehead <ejw@cse.ucsc.edu>
- Date: Thu, 5 Oct 2000 15:09:58 -0700
- To: <ietf-dav-versioning@w3.org>
> I agree that LABEL functionality is very important, and should be > standardized in the protocol, but I don't see that Jim's arguments > identify the significant interoperability problems that will result > if LABEL is optional functionality. Creation or removal of interoperability problems is a poor criteria for determining what belongs in core. Using this as the criteria, I could argue that CHECKOUT should be optional, since it is impossible to identify any significant interoperability problems that would result from it being put into advanced versioning. Such a move would raise *oper*ability problems, but that is my point. CHECKOUT's inclusion in core versioning depends on its utility for basic versioning use. Similarly, my previous argument was that labels provide such a valuable facility, useful across such a wide range of users and use cases, that it belongs in core. I illustrated this by identifying how labels address the naming problems that accompany the use of machine-generated version identifiers. Since these problems would be part of core, it seems to me their remedy should also be part of core. > The "auto-generated filename" argument really doesn't apply here. > The version creation method (CHECKIN) always creates a server-named > object. The addition of a label to that object is an optional > additional act that can be performed by a client. So, are you arguing that for an operation to belong in core, a user must perform it every time they do a CHECKIN? You want server-generated identifiers, since it would be unreasonable to expect a user to individually name each revision, and you also want labels, since it is unreasonable to expect a user to never want to name any revision. > The "spellcheck" analogy is much closer, but using this analogy, > although you'd want to have a standard protocol for accessing > spellcheck functionality from a word processor client, greying > out the spellcheck menu item for word processing servers that > don't support it seems like a reasonable thing to do. I never argued that LABEL *couldn't* be made optional, just that it *shouldn't*. Any of the methods we're proposing *could* be optional, and a client *could* adapt to whatever features the server provides. The net result of this would not be increased simplicity on the client side, though. Labels are such a widely provided feature across version control systems that the burden of proof really lies on those who want to move this functionality out of core. I really need to be convinced that the absence of labels won't: (a) violate the expectations of versioning-aware users of DeltaV applications (I personally would think the absence of labels to be extremely odd in a modern versioning system), and (b) lead to increased cognitive difficulties due to the absence of revision naming capabilities. - Jim
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