RE: XML attribute

From: Clemm, Geoff (gclemm@rational.com)
Date: Fri, Sep 22 2000

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    From: "Clemm, Geoff" <gclemm@rational.com>
    To: ietf-dav-versioning@w3.org
    Date: Fri, 22 Sep 2000 15:26:17 -0400
    Subject: RE: XML attribute
    
    My motivation for not putting 'if-unsupported' in the DAV namespace
    is that it provides very generic functionality that is not DAV specific,
    so you could imagine one wanting this to become as generic as the
    'id' attribute.
    
    On the other hand, putting it in the DAV namespace does help avoid
    collision with Joe Random's use of the attribute.  Since I'm pretty
    50-50 on this issue, I'll go with Ron's suggestion and put it in the
    DAV namespace in the next draft, but if anyone
    else feels strongly (or even, weakly) about this, please chime in.
    
    Cheers,
    Geoff
    
    
    -----Original Message-----
    From: Ron Jacobs [mailto:rjacobs@gforce.com]
    Sent: Friday, September 22, 2000 2:30 PM
    To: ietf-dav-versioning@w3.org
    Subject: RE: XML attribute
    
    
    This attribute, now named if-unsupported, still is not in the DAV: name
    space in the 08.2 draft. Why would this be the only name introduced by
    DeltaV not to be in the DAV:
    name space?
    
    BTW, I like the new name.
    
    Thanks, Ron
    
    -----Original Message-----
    From: Geoffrey M. Clemm [mailto:geoffrey.clemm@rational.com]
    Sent: Monday, September 18, 2000 9:38 AM
    To: ietf-dav-versioning@w3.org
    Subject: Re: XML attribute
    
    
    
    The trouble with "optional" or "obligatory" (or "required") is that
    the attribute doesn't indicate whether the element is optional or
    required, but rather what the server should do if it doesn't understand
    the element type (where the choices are "ignore" or "abort", or "ok"
    or "error").
    
    Cheers,
    Geoff
    
       From: Tim_Ellison@uk.ibm.com
       Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2000 15:26:57 +0100
    
    
    
    
       <ron>
          Section 3.1: To me, "unknown" sounds more like one of the potential
          values for this attribute. Maybe the name could be "if-unknown"
          (which I don't really like either) or something that indicates that
          the value is a choice to be taken conditionally.
       </ron>
    
       <geoff>
       Anything that can be done to improve the name would be good.
       Between "unknown" and "if-unknown", I probably prefer "unknown",
       but I agree that "unknown" is not the optimal choice.  Suggestions
       welcomed!
       </geoff>
    
       How about 'optional' or 'obligatory' with a "T" or "F" value?
    
       Tim