RE: Labels

From: Clemm, Geoff (gclemm@Rational.Com)
Date: Wed, Feb 23 2000

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    From: "Clemm, Geoff" <gclemm@Rational.Com>
    To: ietf-dav-versioning@w3.org
    Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2000 15:58:51 -0500
    Subject: RE: Labels
    
    I agree that "putting them in URL's" is a red herring.  The real issue is to
    make
    sure they can be sent in either a header or a message body.  To encode them
    one way
    for a message body and another way for a header seems likely to cause
    confusion and
    error, though.  Why wouldn't we just encode it the same way in both?
    
    Cheers,
    Geoff
    
    -----Original Message-----
    From: Tim_Ellison@oti.com [mailto:Tim_Ellison@oti.com]
    Sent: Wednesday, February 23, 2000 2:48 PM
    To: ietf-dav-versioning@w3.org
    Subject: RE: Labels
    
    
    
    Is there any reason why we want to transmit a label in a URL?  I can't think
    
    of any.
    
    Even if you say labels are always URL-encoded UTF-8 a client would not know 
    (just by looking at it) which segment of the URL was 'doubly' encoded.
    
    I would be inclined to go for UTF-8 Unicode chars in the message body (XML),
    
    URL-encoded UTF-8 in message headers, and never put them in a URL.
    
    Tim
     ----------
    >From: Clemm, Geoff
    >To: WebDAV E-mail
    >Subject: RE: Labels
    >Date: Wednesday, February 23, 2000 1:17PM
    >
    >I don't think it helps to say that they are URL-encoded if we are
    >required to transmit it in a URL.  These leaves the client wondering
    >whether they got the label in the URL-encoded form or not (e.g. when
    >it appears in a Revision-Selector header.  I believe it will be simpler
    >and less error-prone if we just say that they are UTF-8 Unicode characters
    >that have been URL-encoded.  Any client that handles URL's will be able
    >to handle URL-encoding, and assumedly any WebDAV client will need to be
    >able to handle URL's.
    >
    >Cheers,
    >Geoff
    >
    >-----Original Message-----
    >From: Tim_Ellison@oti.com [mailto:Tim_Ellison@oti.com]
    >Sent: Wednesday, February 23, 2000 9:57 AM
    >To: ietf-dav-versioning@w3.org
    >Subject: Re: Labels
    >
    >
    >
    ><geoff>
    >I agree with those on the mailing list who have argued that it is 
    sufficient
    >
    >to internationalize labels to the extent that URL's are internationalized,
    >which does not include tagging with language and charset.
    ></geoff>
    >
    >Jim W. pointed out that URLs are exempted from the internationallization
    >rules.  I suggest that we say labels are UTF-8 Unicode characters; and the
    >resulting bytes are URL-encoded if we are required to transmit it in a URL
    >(unlikely).
    >
    >Tim
    >
    >