- From: <ned.freed@innosoft.com>
- Date: Sat, 08 Jul 2000 07:31:53 -0700 (PDT)
- To: "Martin J. Duerst" <duerst@w3.org>
- Cc: ietf-charsets@iana.org
> It looks like by chance I'm just barely in time for this last call. > Some comments, none major showstoppers: Good to hear. I'm basically looking at this as "do the ones that are OK to handle as last call comments". Stuff that requires discussion or a new last call needs to wait for the next time around. > - The first sentence on page 3 has some strange repetition: > 'to allow charsets' in the first line; 'to be used as charsets' at the end. Fixed. > - Section 2.5: 'A given CES is typically associated with a single CCS': > For the UTF-8 example, this is definitely true (and helpful to be > pointed out). For others CESs, I think it's wrong. The classical > example is what I would call here the 'identity 8-bit CES', which > is used in the whole ISO-8859-X series and many other cases. I'll change it from "typically" to "sometimes". > - Section 3.1, 'All registered charsets MUST note whether or not they > are suitable for use in MIME text.' and Sec. 6, 'Suitability for > use in Mime text:': As recent discussion has shown, this may > benefit from some careful clarification, but I guess this already > is on your todo list. It is on my to-do list, but it isn't something I want to address in this registration procedure update. > - 3.1 'constructed as a composition of a CCS and a CES...': CCS > appears three times in singular. There are many charsets where > a CES combines more than one CCS. Same problem again in the > registration template. Good point. I'll make them plural. > - 'All registered charsets MUST be specified in a *stable*': > What about extensions, such as for ISO 10646? What about > variants, such as for Shift_JIS (vendor extensions as well > as mapping variants, for the later see > e.g. http://www.w3.org/TR/japanese-xml/). What about them? The requirement is for a stable specification and nothing more. Updating the specification is OK as long as whatever rules that specification gives for updating are followed. (We have a detailed set of such rules for UTF-8, for example.) The primary point here is that we don't want a definition based on a pointer to a document which then vanishes, leaving us with a name and nothing else. > - 3.3 talks about names, and a primary name. The registry uses > the terms 'name', 'alias', and also 'preferred MIME name'. > It would be very helpful if the terminology were unified. That's an issue for the registry, not for the present document. > - 3.5 'ONLY if it adds significant value': I have heard from > some people that this strict requirement has lead to some > contraproductive effects, in particular things being used > with x- prefixes for years. I think it would make sense to > tone this down a bit. If you were talking about MIME types I might agree. But this is charsets, and we've seen no reluctance in this space to register everything under the sun. And perhaps more to the point, we had a lot of trouble reconciling the views of people who feel that charset registration should be restricted whenever possible and people who feel that registering everything that comes along is a good idea. This language is the carefully crafted result -- I don't think it would be appropriate for me to change it based on your say-so. In any case, if you feel this is worth pursuing I would suggest that you bring up specific examples of where this language has caused harm and see if a consensus can be reach to change it. > - 3.6: The requirement of documenting the mapping to ISO 10646 > where possible is great. It may be worth for the IETF to look > at formats to do this in a machine-readable way. For an example, > please have a look at http://www.unicode.org/unicode/reports/tr22/. This is beyond the scope of this document. > - Section 4.1: 'The intent of the public posting is to solicit > comments and feedback on the definition of the charset and > the name choosen for it over a two week period.': At the > end of the sentence, the references are not exactly clear. > The name choosen for the definition of the charset? > The name choosen for a two week period? > This can easily be improved, I guess. Fixed. > - 4.2: 'Decisions made by the reviewer must be posted to the ietf- > charsets mailing within 14 days.': Within 14 days of the decision? > That would be pretty easy; nobody can prove to the reviewer that > he made a decision three months ago if he forgot to post it and > claims that it took him three month to actually take the decision :-). Well, it is pretty obvious that the intent is two weeks after submission to the reviewer. But I'll clean up the language. > - 5. The text about the 'Assigned Numbers' RFC reads hopelessly > outdated in the age of the web, and rather strange given that > the last such RFC was issued in 1994. This is outside the scope of this document. > - 5. Given some recent explanations by Harald about how to coordinate > charset registration and RFC publication, it seems to be a good > idea to explain that roughly, so that further registrants don't > start from the wrong end. This will have to wait for the next revision. > - 6. 'A URL to a specification' -> 'A URI to a specification'. Fixed. > - [ISO-8859]: Lots of updates here, please see e.g. > http://www.iso.ch/isob/switch-engine-cate.pl?searchtype=general&KEYWORDS= > http://www.iso.ch/isob/switch-engine-cate.pl?searchtype=general&KEYWORDS=8859 Fixed. > - [ISO-10646]: Please update this to refer to the 2000 version! The ISO catalogue doesn't list it yet so I didn't update it. If I get a reference before publication I'll handle it as an author edit. Ned
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