RE: Problem with INPUT tags

According to XHTML 1.0 Transitional DTD :
    '	<!ATTLIST table
	  %attrs;
	  summary     %Text;         #IMPLIED '

So the summary attribute is not optional in XHTML 1.0. But if I set the
XHTML parameter value to false, Tidy still displays this error, whereas it
knows that my file is HTML 4.01... It's just a warning, so it's not a big
deal, but I don't understand why Tidy finds this 'error'.

Cedric

-----Message d'origine-----
De : Ben Noblet [mailto:ben@lateralsystems.com.au]
Envoye : mercredi 9 avril 2003 10:44
A : BLANC Cedric - LYO ( CeBlanc@lyon-partdieu.sema.slb.com )
Objet : RE: Problem with INPUT tags


Hi Cedric,

Good news.... The "Clean" option can have some unpredicable results, as
can the "bare" option.

Is the summary attribute also option in XHTML 1.0 ?

Please note, your response went to me only, not the list.  You have to
reply to html-tidy@w3.org (it is annoying that the list software doesn't
use this as the reply-to address)

Cheers
Ben


-----Original Message-----
From: BLANC Cedric - LYO ( CeBlanc@lyon-partdieu.sema.slb.com )
[mailto:CeBlanc@lyon-partdieu.sema.slb.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, 9 April 2003 6:43 PM
To: Ben Noblet
Subject: RE: Problem with INPUT tags


I am progressing : I've removed some configuration codelines which I had
added a long time ago (I don't remember why...) :
	setClean(true);
	setXmlTags(true);
And now Tidy generates this :
	<input name="login" type="text" size="20"/>
This is precisely what I wanted it to do :)
Something is surprising : the result is the same if the XHTML property
is set to 'true' or 'false' ; do you think it may be because the input
file doctype (automatically inserted by my HTML editor ; I can change it
if
necessary) is HTML 4.01 Transitional ?

But there's a new (little) problem (else it would be too easier...) :
    '	Tidy (vers 4th August 2000) Parsing "InputStream"
	line 9 column 1 - Warning: <table> lacks "summary" attribute

	InputStream: Doctype given is "-//W3C//DTD XHTML 1.0
Transitional//EN"
	InputStream: Document content looks like HTML 4.01 Transitional
	1 warnings/errors were found!	'
I don't understant why Tidy displays this warning, because the 'summary'
attribute is optional in HTML 4.01... But the main thing is that I don't
have any problem with INPUT tags ; good news of the day :)

Cedric


-----Message d'origine-----
De : Ben Noblet [mailto:ben@lateralsystems.com.au]
Envoye : mercredi 9 avril 2003 10:08
A : html-tidy@w3.org
Objet : RE: Problem with INPUT tags



Yes I understand .. If you use the "output-xhtml: yes" option it should
(and does) produce compliant XHTML.

Your problem is how Tidy decides where to close the tag.  I agree it
should just add a trailing slash to an <input> tag resulting in <input
id="x"/> as I can't really see any valid reason to have any data within
<input></input> tags.  This is exactly what it does with <img> tags
quite successfully.

I have had similar (and harder to solve) problems with things like
unclose <marquee> tags (ugh!, not my content!)... Because a marquee tag
expects data between the <marquee> and </marquee> tags, sometimes tidy
decides to close it way down the page resulting in a whole page
scrolling marquee :)  Because IE arbitrarily ends the marquee when it
encounters another tag like a </td> the invalid document displays fine
before tidying, but looks terrible after.

The same problem can occur with many other unclosed tags in bad HTML
like <strong> etc.  There is no easy solutions for these ones, as who
can say what the author really intended, but tags like <input> should be
easily solved.

Cheers
Ben



-----Original Message-----
From: BLANC Cedric - LYO ( CeBlanc@lyon-partdieu.sema.slb.com )
[mailto:CeBlanc@lyon-partdieu.sema.slb.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, 9 April 2003 5:41 PM
To: Ben Noblet
Subject: RE: Problem with INPUT tags


The perfect solution would be that Tidy produces XHTML from my HTML
input file, because the org.w3c.dom.Document produced is manipulated
with DOM4J afterwards... That's why every tag has to be closed
correctly.

Cheers
Cedric

-----Message d'origine-----
De : Ben Noblet [mailto:ben@lateralsystems.com.au]
Envoye : mercredi 9 avril 2003 02:33
A : html-tidy@w3.org
Objet : RE: Problem with INPUT tags



Sorry I had assumed you were tidying to XHTML as that is primarily what
I use tidy for!

I presume Cedric was also tidying to XHTML, so you would also have to do
that to reproduce his problem.

Cheers
Ben


-----Original Message-----
From: Bjoern Hoehrmann [mailto:derhoermi@gmx.net] 
Sent: Wednesday, 9 April 2003 10:14 AM
To: Ben Noblet
Cc: html-tidy@w3.org
Subject: Re: Problem with INPUT tags


* Ben Noblet wrote:
>> I am unable to reproduce this, maybe this is caused by other errors 
>> or
>
>> your configuration options? Using the latest JTidy available I get

>Your output is invalid as the INPUT tag is not closed.

For HTML output, the <input> element must not have an end tag, for XHTML
output, Tidy will print <input ... />; choosing XHTML output does not
cause the behaivour you describe.

Received on Wednesday, 9 April 2003 05:08:21 UTC