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Re: view xml-schema with svg

From: Francis Norton <francis@redrice.com>
Date: Wed, 30 Oct 2002 10:52:35 +0000
Message-ID: <3DBFB9F3.2080205@redrice.com>
To: Paul Kiel <paul@hr-xml.org>
CC: xmlschema-dev@w3.org


I have some XSLT for processing XSDs here at 
http://schemavalid.com/utils/typeTagger.zip - it handles includes so 
might be useful. In fact the code was originally used for an in-house 
utility that generated cross-linked (drill-up, drill-down) HTML for a 
reasonable subset - I could take a look for the original if it would 
advance your progress, but you may already be beyond that state.


Paul Kiel wrote:

> Andrew and Marcel,
> Thanks for your replies.  Oddly, I posted my message on the 21st, the 
> same day I received Cyrills original post.  (I know people may want to 
> filter my mail, but for 8 days?... :)
> At any rate, I don't have the bandwidth to begin another SVG project; 
> however my limited experience with it in the past wetted my appetite 
> for such a usage. 
> In the meantime, I will try to keep up with the SVG work you mentioned. 
> Also, if anyone finds xslts for xsd - I would love to get my hands on 
> them.  All I have right now is an extension of one that originated 
> from Jeni Tennison's book, one from a guy whose credited email does 
> not seem to work, and one I hacked myself.  In this area, I don't 
> think there will ever be a "killer" app, so giving many different 
> views for different folks is the best option for now.
> Thanks (on october 29th),
> Paul Kiel
>     ----- Original Message -----
>     *From:* AndrewWatt2000@aol.com <mailto:AndrewWatt2000@aol.com>
>     *To:* paul@hr-xml.org <mailto:paul@hr-xml.org> ;
>     xmlschema-dev@w3.org <mailto:xmlschema-dev@w3.org>
>     *Sent:* Tuesday, October 29, 2002 7:26 AM
>     *Subject:* Re: view xml-schema with svg
>     In a message dated 29/10/2002 12:13:04 GMT Standard Time,
>     paul@hr-xml.org <mailto:paul@hr-xml.org> writes:
>>     As one who created SVG from XDR schemas (prior to final XSD rec
>>     of course),
>>     it is a daunting task.  One of the great arguments for schema was
>>     that it
>>     was parsable and styleable.  But given the complexity of the
>>     final rec,
>>     there just aren't scads of xslts for xsd.  In my own hunting, I
>>     managed to
>>     come up with about 3 - one of which is my own concoction.
>>     Building an SVG engine would be great for people like me who are
>>     constantly
>>     looking for new and better ways to communicate the data model to
>>     domain
>>     experts (who don't care to know about xml and shouldn't have to).  An
>>     education tool more than a schema design tool.
>     Paul,
>     The communication uses of SVG haven't yet been explored beyond the
>     surface layer, in my view. I did, at one point, play with using
>     SVG to teach about SVG, but became a little fed up with all the
>     escaping of angled brackets that was needed. :)
>     I know there are a few people on the SVG-Developers list who are
>     particularly interested in the use of SVG as a communication tool.
>     But I don't know how far they have progressed at the present time.
>     If your group does begin to use SVG as a communication tool I am
>     sure that many on the SVG-Developers list would be interested to
>     see the results.
>     http://www.yahoogroups.com/group/SVG-Developers
>     There are about 3,000 SVG developers on the list so you might want
>     to ask if anyone is making progress on that type of use of SVG.
>     Andrew Watt
>     Lead Author, SVG Unleashed
>     http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0672324296/ref%3DNOSIM/edititwriteco-20/002-1471006-3163232

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