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Re: view xml-schema with svg

From: Paul Kiel <paul@hr-xml.org>
Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2002 12:46:14 -0500 (EST)
Message-ID: <009c01c27f73$12792110$6401a8c0@pkiel2>
To: <xmlschema-dev@w3.org>
Andrew and Marcel,

Thanks for your replies.  Oddly, I posted my message on the 21st, the same day I received Cyrills original post.  (I know people may want to filter my mail, but for 8 days?... :)

At any rate, I don't have the bandwidth to begin another SVG project; however my limited experience with it in the past wetted my appetite for such a usage.  
In the meantime, I will try to keep up with the SVG work you mentioned.  

Also, if anyone finds xslts for xsd - I would love to get my hands on them.  All I have right now is an extension of one that originated from Jeni Tennison's book, one from a guy whose credited email does not seem to work, and one I hacked myself.  In this area, I don't think there will ever be a "killer" app, so giving many different views for different folks is the best option for now.

Thanks (on october 29th),

Paul Kiel

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: AndrewWatt2000@aol.com 
  To: paul@hr-xml.org ; xmlschema-dev@w3.org 
  Sent: Tuesday, October 29, 2002 7:26 AM
  Subject: Re: view xml-schema with svg

  In a message dated 29/10/2002 12:13:04 GMT Standard Time, paul@hr-xml.org writes:

    As one who created SVG from XDR schemas (prior to final XSD rec of course),
    it is a daunting task.  One of the great arguments for schema was that it
    was parsable and styleable.  But given the complexity of the final rec,
    there just aren't scads of xslts for xsd.  In my own hunting, I managed to
    come up with about 3 - one of which is my own concoction.

    Building an SVG engine would be great for people like me who are constantly
    looking for new and better ways to communicate the data model to domain
    experts (who don't care to know about xml and shouldn't have to).  An
    education tool more than a schema design tool.


  The communication uses of SVG haven't yet been explored beyond the surface layer, in my view. I did, at one point, play with using SVG to teach about SVG, but became a little fed up with all the escaping of angled brackets that was needed. :)

  I know there are a few people on the SVG-Developers list who are particularly interested in the use of SVG as a communication tool. But I don't know how far they have progressed at the present time.

  If your group does begin to use SVG as a communication tool I am sure that many on the SVG-Developers list would be interested to see the results.


  There are about 3,000 SVG developers on the list so you might want to ask if anyone is making progress on that type of use of SVG.

  Andrew Watt
  Lead Author, SVG Unleashed
Received on Wednesday, 30 October 2002 04:01:26 UTC

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