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Re: XMLP WG closure of Issue 266

From: Martin Duerst <duerst@w3.org>
Date: Mon, 05 Aug 2002 11:30:48 +0900
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To: "David Fallside" <fallside@us.ibm.com>, xmlp-comments@w3.org
Cc: w3c-i18n-ig@w3.org

Hello David,

As issue 266 was adopted by the I18N WG, I'm forwarding
your response for discussion to the I18N IG mailing list.
Misha, can you please add this to the WG's teleconf agenda?

Regards,    Martin.

At 11:40 02/08/01 -0700, David Fallside wrote:
>The XML Protocol (XMLP) WG has decided to close issue
>266 [1], which you originated, with the following
>The XMLP WG has decided to close this issue without any
>change to the SOAP Data Model and without any change to
>the SOAP Encoding. The XMLP WG recognizes the general
>importance of enabling I18N, however SOAP's model and
>serialization is designed for interfacing with
>programming languages many of which we believe would be
>incapable of dealing with the resulting marked up text.
>Indeed, there has been early experience (e.g. on
>"soapbuilders") binding the SOAP Encoding to a large
>number of widely deployed systems (e.g. Java, .Net,
>etc.) We have reason to believe that most, perhaps all
>of these would be incapable of effeciently representing
>(e.g. in their Unicode string types) the sort of marked
>up text that is conveyed by mixed content.
>We realize that this decision is at best a practical
>compromise from the point of view of i18n.  We
>believe, however, that the sensible order of attack on
>this problem is to first encourage the development of
>programming systems that can indeed efficiently
>manipulate such richly structured text.  At that point,
>it would indeed be sensible to consider "raising the
>bar" and providing at least an option for mixed content
>in the SOAP encoding.  In the meantime, we do not
>believe that we can adopt an approach that would
>substantially break most or all of our existing users'
>The XMLP WG notes that the SOAP Data Model and Encoding
>are optional, and the SOAP framework allows someone to
>create their own model with a serialisation that
>provides mixed content.
>We hope that this resolution satisfies your
>concern. If not, please contact the WG asap.
>[1] http://www.w3.org/2000/xp/Group/xmlp-lc-issues#x266
>David C. Fallside, IBM
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