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RE: What is a SOAP Message

From: David Orchard <dorchard@bea.com>
Date: Tue, 4 Feb 2003 07:18:45 -0800
To: "'Jean-Jacques Moreau'" <jean-jacques.moreau@crf.canon.fr>, <noah_mendelsohn@us.ibm.com>
Cc: <xml-dist-app@w3.org>
Message-ID: <014b01c2cc60$b6b66a50$c30ba8c0@beasys.com>

Maybe a good word for the bag of bits that some are calling a message would
be better served being called a representation?  This would show a clean
relationship between the web and web services at the messaging level.  The
TAG's work [1] isn't very far along, but it shows a start.

And if we don't a call a "message" a representation, then we probably ought
to provide some explanation on how a message and a representation relate.
It might be as simple as "A SOAP Message is defined as a representation that
contains a SOAP envelope, binding specific additional data, and has the
application/soap+xml content type".



> -----Original Message-----
> From: xml-dist-app-request@w3.org
> [mailto:xml-dist-app-request@w3.org]On
> Behalf Of Jean-Jacques Moreau
> Sent: Tuesday, February 04, 2003 12:30 AM
> To: noah_mendelsohn@us.ibm.com
> Cc: xml-dist-app@w3.org
> Subject: Re: What is a SOAP Message
> I also make the same distinction between messages and envelopes.
> I have seen the confusion made in other groups as well. So,
> +1 to your suggested clarification.
> Jean-Jacques.
> noah_mendelsohn@us.ibm.com wrote:
> > During today's AFTF telcon we got into a discussion as to
> exactly what a
> > SOAP Message is.  Gudge pointed out that in several places
> in part 1 it
> > says or strongly implies that a SOAP Message >is< an XML
> Envelope Infoset.
> > I had always assumed we were clear that the "term message"
> refers not just
> > to the envelope, but to a set of information which includes
> at minimum the
> > envelope, but often other information as well (e.g., the destination
> > address, WebMethod, and Action tend to be sent out of band
> in SOAP http).
>  > [...]
> >
> > I think it's useful and appropriate to separate the term
> "message" from
> > "envelope". [...] I think we should consider clarifying our
> terminology.
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