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RE: AFTF requirements, pre-2003/01/31 telcon

From: Martin Gudgin <mgudgin@microsoft.com>
Date: Mon, 3 Feb 2003 15:26:36 -0800
Message-ID: <92456F6B84D1324C943905BEEAE0278E02D30C24@RED-MSG-10.redmond.corp.microsoft.com>
To: "John J. Barton" <John_Barton@hpl.hp.com>, <noah_mendelsohn@us.ibm.com>
Cc: <jones@research.att.com>, "Rich Salz" <rsalz@datapower.com>, "Sanjiva Weerawarana" <sanjiva@watson.ibm.com>, <xml-dist-app@w3.org>

Well, I'm not certain that a synthetic infoset is EXACTLY what I want,
because, ideally, I'd like to be able to serialize my infoset using XML
1.0 + namespaces. 

Not that I'd want to do that in the general case, because one point of
this exercise is to allow binary data and other stuff that doesn't fit
well into XML 1.0 serializations to be serialized efficiently...

But certainly the infoset you would get by parsing the SOAP envelope, as
is, is not the infoset I want.

Gudge

> -----Original Message-----
> From: John J. Barton [mailto:John_Barton@hpl.hp.com] 
> Sent: 03 February 2003 22:01
> To: noah_mendelsohn@us.ibm.com
> Cc: jones@research.att.com; Martin Gudgin; Rich Salz; Sanjiva 
> Weerawarana; xml-dist-app@w3.org
> Subject: RE: AFTF requirements, pre-2003/01/31 telcon
> 
> 
> So Martin you want to define a synthetic infoset
> (http://www.w3.org/TR/xml-infoset/#intro.synthetic)
> for the attachment specification?
> 
> At 03:35 PM 2/3/2003 -0500, noah_mendelsohn@us.ibm.com wrote:
> >John Barton wrote:
> >
> > > As far as I can tell what Martin is asking for is what
> > > we might call a "manifest".  By manifest I mean an XML 
> > > representation of the package metadata accessible by SOAP 
> processing 
> > > code.  At one point we considered this in SwA but decided that it 
> > > would be better layered separate from the package.  
> Conceptually the 
> > > manifest allows a software component to preprocess the message
> > > for completeness and security independent of the
> > > message semantics in the same way that a shipping
> > > manifest works on physical goods.  I believe that the
> > > ebXML folks had a manifest.
> >
> >I'm 90% sure that Gudge wants the attachment data as well as 
> metadata 
> >integrated into the Envelope infoset model.
> >
> > > If this isn't what Martin meant, then hit delete now ;-)
> >
> >Uh...
> >
> > > John.
> >
> >Noah
> >
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