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Re: WSDL Version 1.2 Part 2: Bindings, date 2002/4/11

From: Jean-Jacques Moreau <moreau@crf.canon.fr>
Date: Fri, 21 Jun 2002 10:12:11 +0200
Message-ID: <3D12DFDA.FB6BE65A@crf.canon.fr>
To: Carl Binding <cbd@zurich.ibm.com>
CC: "xml-dist-app@w3.org" <xml-dist-app@w3.org>

Carl,

I still think you are looking at an older draft. The sentence you quote now[1] appears in Part 2, section 4.2.1 "RPC Invocation", but "typed" has
disappeared:

     "The struct or array is named identically to the procedure or method name (see A. Mapping Application Defined Names to XML Names)."

We use procedure or methods interchangeably. The larger community has not standardized on one or the other, so we use both.

Does this answer your questions?

Jean-Jacques.

[1] http://www.w3.org/2000/xp/Group/1/10/11/soap12-part2.html ($Date: 2002/06/06 11:18:39 $)

Carl Binding wrote:

> Jean Jacques,
> things have cleared up by looking at SOAP 1.1.
> I didn't mean to say that single-request-response is not relevant, it just
> has nothing to do with the way a RPC call is encoded in a SOAP body which
> is the subject of section 3.5 of WSDL 1.1 respectively
> section 2.5 in WSDL 1.2 part 2: bindings.
>
> The sections that I was looking for is section 7.1 in SOAP 1.1 and section
> 5.1 in SOAP 1.2 Part 2: RPC and SOAP body.
>
> Incidentally the sentence "the struct is both named and typed identically
> to the procedure or method name" is slippery. in which way are structs
> "typed"? and what is the difference then between a procedure and a method?
>
> lots of road to cover still before this stuff is mature.
>
> Regards,
> Carl
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> Carl Binding wrote:
>
> > I'm having a question regd. Section 2.5: soap:body. In the explanation of
> > operation style "rpc" a reference to "section 7.1 of the SOAP
> > specification" is made.
> > I wonder which SOAP specs is being referred.ie. which version and which
> > part.
>
> Jeff pointed out that WSDL 1.1 references SOAP 1.1.
>
> > Section 7.1 of SOAP 1.2 part 2: Adjuncts contains a behavioural
> description
> > for SOAP nodes during Single-Request-Response which I believe not really
> > relevant here..
>
> I hope you don't mean Single-Request-Response is not relevant for SOAP 1.2?
> ;-)
>
> BTW, you are looking at a rather old SOAP 1.2 draft.
>
> > Incidentally I note the difference between the draft of WSDL 1.2 and WSDL
> > 1.1 regd applicability of soap:body (Section 3.5 in WSDL 1.1): in WSDL
> 1.1
> > the soap:body element specifies how the message parts appear inside the
> > SOAP Body element, whereas in WSDL 1.2 (Draft) there is talk about the
> > Fault element.
>
> Hm... which part are you talking about for WSDL 1.2? Is this part 2,
> bindings?
> If so, I don't understand, since the text has not changed (yet), apart from
> minor corrections and ednotes.
>
> > Any clarifications on the real meaning of attribute "style" in the
> > "soap:operation" element would be appreciated.
>
> This possibly sounds like a new issue.
>
> > Many thanks,
>
> You're welcome.
>
> Jean-Jacques.
Received on Friday, 21 June 2002 04:13:16 GMT

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