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Re: Reflective systems

From: John J. Barton <John_Barton@hpl.hp.com>
Date: Wed, 06 Feb 2002 08:10:09 -0800
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To: Rich Salz <rsalz@zolera.com>, noah_mendelsohn@us.ibm.com
Cc: xml-dist-app@w3.org
At 07:46 PM 2/5/2002 -0500, Rich Salz wrote:
> > So, neither the
> > concept nor the widespread implementation of it is new.  Implementing it
> > in a single network of global scale is arguably what's new on the web.
>Exactly.  And that new-ness, of course, is not because the http
>technology is so great. :)

If not http, then how do you explain the web's creation of
the global Internet?  We must understand what happened.  As
Noah pointed out, before WWW we had almost all the stuff the
web services effort is recreating.  I don't think XML by itself
is strong enough magic: COM with angle brackets would still be
COM.  Fielding's REST captures aspects of the answer.  That's
why Stuart's attempt to reconcile SOAP and REST is interesting.

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