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RE: URI for the concept of SOAP MEP?

From: Jacek Kopecky <jacek.kopecky@deri.org>
Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2006 11:18:27 +0100
To: WS-Description WG <www-ws-desc@w3.org>
Message-Id: <1137752307.20924.1.camel@localhost>

Hi all, 

just a status report on my action item to get an XMLP-approved URI for
the concept of SOAP MEP. The initial response from NoahM indicates there
might be opposition to using the section URI, and Mike Mahan (XMLP
chair) said they'll discuss it in their next call/meeting and let me


-------- Forwarded Message --------
From: michael.mahan@nokia.com
To: jacek.kopecky@deri.org, noah_mendelsohn@us.ibm.com
Cc: xml-dist-app@w3.org
Subject: RE: URI for the concept of SOAP MEP?
Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2006 11:15:37 -0800

Hi Jacek,

I'll put this on the next XMLP agenda and will let you know the 
expected timeframe for resolution after that.  


>-----Original Message-----
>From: xml-dist-app-request@w3.org 
>[mailto:xml-dist-app-request@w3.org] On Behalf Of ext Jacek Kopecky
>Sent: Thursday, January 19, 2006 10:02 AM
>To: noah_mendelsohn@us.ibm.com
>Cc: xml-dist-app@w3.org
>Subject: Re: URI for the concept of SOAP MEP?
>Thank you Noah, I guess a new URI might be preferable.
>We (the WS-Desc WG) were concerned about dragging you (the 
>XMLP WG) into a new issue, but I guess it's unavoidable. Can 
>you please give me an estimate of when this particular URI 
>could be coined for us? Before the TP in Cannes would be good. 8-)
>Best regards,
>On Wed, 2006-01-18 at 18:03 -0500, noah_mendelsohn@us.ibm.com wrote:
>> Speaking for myself, I'd prefer to just invent a new URI and 
>have the 
>> XMLP workgroup document it, perhaps in the next update to 
>SOAP.  It's 
>> surely not an incompatible change, and it allows us to keep 
>the URI of 
>> the documentation separate from the URI of that which is 
>being documented.
>> Interestingly, a related discussion is ongoing on www-tag regarding 
>> RDDL natures.
>> Noah
>> --------------------------------------
>> Noah Mendelsohn
>> IBM Corporation
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>> Jacek Kopecky <jacek.kopecky@deri.org> Sent by: 
>> xml-dist-app-request@w3.org
>> 01/18/2006 02:33 PM
>>         To:     xml-dist-app@w3.org
>>         cc:     (bcc: Noah Mendelsohn/Cambridge/IBM)
>>         Subject:        URI for the concept of SOAP MEP?
>> Dear XMLP WG, 8-)
>> in WS-Description WG we are working on an RDF mapping for the WSDL 
>> components. The SOAP binding of WSDL points from WSDL operation to a 
>> SOAP MEP to indicate which MEP will be used by the 
>operation. For this 
>> we use the MEP URIs from SOAP 1.2 specification, like 
>> http://www.w3.org/2003/05/soap/mep/request-response/
>> This is a correct and intended use, I believe.
>> For modeling purposes, we want to say that the WSDL SOAP binding 
>> property soapMEP will point to any SOAP MEP, therefore we need to be 
>> able to indicate the class that represents SOAP MEPs. Currently, we 
>> use http://www.w3.org/2005/10/wsdl-rdf#SOAPMessageExchangePattern
>> for that, but this URI is WSDL-specific and that is wrong.
>> We intend to use instead the URI that points to the section 3.2 of 
>> 1.2 specification, which describes the concept of SOAP MEPs:
>> http://www.w3.org/TR/soap12-part1/#soapmep
>> Can you please confirm that we may use this URI as the identifier of 
>> the RDFS class of all SOAP MEPs? Or if you don't like this, can you 
>> please provide us with a better URI?
>> We are asking you because the concept of a SOAP MEP is yours and 
>> therefore you should be the ones to coin the URI to identify that 
>> concept.
>> Best regards,
>> Jacek Kopecky
Received on Friday, 20 January 2006 10:18:45 UTC

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