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Agenda, 17 March 2005 WS Desc telcon

From: Jonathan Marsh <jmarsh@microsoft.com>
Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2005 12:57:06 -0800
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To: <www-ws-desc@w3.org>

0.  Dial in information (members only) [.1]:

See the public WG page [.2] for pointers to current documents and other information, and the private page [.3] for administrative matters.

If you have additions to the agenda, please email them to the WG list before the start of the telcon.

[.1] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/w3c-ws-desc/2005Mar/0012.html
[.2] http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/desc/
[.3] http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/desc/admin

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Agenda

1.  Assign scribe.  Lucky minute taker for this week is one of:
      Prasad Yendluri, Youenn Fablet, Kevin Liu, Umit Yalcinalp,
      Paul Downey, Dale Moberg, Jean-Jacques Moreau,
      Tony Rogers, Rebecca Bergersen, Hugo Haas

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2.  Approval of minutes:
  - Mar 3-4 FTF [.1, .2] and summary (.3)
  - Mar 10 telcon [.4]

[.1] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2005Mar/att-0021/20050303-ws-desc-minutes.html
[.2] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2005Mar/att-0021/20050304-ws-desc-minutes.html
[.3] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2005Mar/0021.html
[.4] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2005Mar/att-0037/20050310-ws-desc-minutes.html

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3.  Review of Action items [.1].  Editorial actions [.2].

?         2004-04-01: Marsh will get schema tf going.
?         2004-09-02: Bijan to create stylesheet to generate a
                      table of components and properties.
HOLD      2004-09-16: Editors to move App C to RDF Mapping spec, 
                      except the frag-id which will move 
                      within media-type reg appendix.
?         2004-09-16: Editors to fix paragraph 6-9 of section 
                      2.1.1 moved into 2.1.2
                      which talks about the syntax.
?         2004-10-14: Editors to add a statement like: 
                      The Style property may constrain both 
                      input and output, however a particular 
                      style may constrain in only one 
                      direction. In Section 2.4.1.1 of Part 1.
?         2004-11-09: DaveO will recast the @compatibleWith 
                      proposal using an extension namespace. 
                      (LC54)
?         2004-11-10: Glen will post an e-mail describing 
                      the compromise proposal on formal objections.
?         2004-11-10: Editor remove ambiguity if it exists
?         2004-11-10: Sanjiva will write up this proposal 
                      and email it to the list as a response 
                      to the objection.
?         2004-11-11: Anish to propose additions to the 
                      test suite for the purpose of 
                      interoperability testing.
?         2004-12-03: Glen and Asir to help craft the specific text 
                      for the editors (LC18).
?         2005-01-06: Umit? to respond to Larry, "not dynamic, 
                      other solutions equally bad, not 
                      recommendation track, if problems
                      happy to consider those"
?         2005-01-13: Part 1 Editors to incorporate the text 
                      at 2004Dec/0022.html.
?         2005-01-19: Part 1 Editors to call out the difference 
                      between WSDL 1.1 and 2.0 in respect to 
                      single interface per service, and 
                      indicate alternatives
?         2005-01-19: Part 1 Editors to rewrite ONMR as Best 
                      practice.
?         2005-02-03: Part 1 editors to incorporate text from 
                      Jan/0026 and Feb/0006.
?         2005-02-17: Jacekk to help Bijan advance the RDF mapping work
DONE      2005-03-03: Jonathan will ask the WG what is the publication 
                      plan for the type system note around 3/17. 
?         2005-03-03: Asir to double check the subissues of 76d to 
                      see if they should be raised as issues and to 
                      do so. 
?         2005-03-04: Editors to merge parts 2 and 3, move the rpc 
                      style from part 1 into it and name the result 
                      "Adjuncts". 
DONE [.6] 2005-03-04: Roberto to come up with a proposal for LC75g
                      (wildcards in rpc style)
?         2005-03-10: Anish and Umit will respond to comments on 
                      media type description documents with our 
                      actions.
?         2005-03-10: Bijan will look at item Editors to move App C 
                      to RDF Mapping spec to see if it is still 
                      relavant
?         2005-03-10: Editors (Arthur?) to hide the Z from the 
                      normative version. 
?         2005-03-10: Editors to check URI and schema references in 
                      Part 1 
DONE [.3, .4] 2005-03-10: Jonathan to notify the XMLP, i18n and XML 
                      Schema groups that we are prepared to 
                      publish.
?         2005-03-10: Marsh to troll minutes looking for more CR 
                      criteria. 
DONE [.5] 2005-03-10: Part1 editors to replace import/include table 
                      w/ that from Asir

[.1] http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/desc/#actions
[.2] http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/desc/4/lc-issues/actions.html
[.3] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/w3c-ws-desc/2005Mar/0010.html
[.4] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/w3c-ws-desc/2005Mar/0011.html
[.5] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/w3c-ws-desc/2005Mar/0011.html
[.6] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2005Mar/0038.html

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4.  Administrivia
  a. Upcoming FTF dates:
   - April 21-22, Mountain View (Microsoft)
     Registration [.1] Logistics [.2]
   - May 30 - June 1 Berlin

[.1] http://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/34041/wsdwgf2f0504/
[.2] http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/desc/5/Logistics-2005-04-21.html

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5. Primer [.1]
 - DBooth and Kevin solicit help for Advanced Topics section [.2]
 - Volunteers for the following sections:
   + Section 7.2 Features and Properties (Glen)
   + Section 7.3 Import mechanism and authoring style (Arthur)
   + Section 7.4 Multiple Logical WSDL Documents Describing the 
                 Same Service (David)
   + Section 7.5 Versioning and Service Equivalency (Paul)
   + Section 7.8 Operation Style and RPC (Umit)
   + Section 7.11 Service References (Arthur)
   + Section 7.12 XML Schema Examples  (Paul)
   + Section 7.13 Multiple In-Line Schemas (Arthur)
   + Section 7.14 The schemaLocation Attribute (Arthur)
   + Section 7.15 Mapping to RDF and Semantic Web (Bijan Jacek)
 - Sections marked as "at risk" if no volunteer can be found:
   + Section 7.7 Security Considerations
 - March 30 deadline!

[.1] http://dev.w3.org/cvsweb/~checkout~/2002/ws/desc/wsdl20/wsdl20-primer.html
[.2] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2005Feb/0004.html

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6.  Media Type Description issues [.1]
  - WG review in progress?
  - Try to have comments in by 21 March.

[.1] http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/desc/2/06/issues.html#detailList
[.2] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2005Mar/0003.html

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7.  Last Call Issues [.1].  Comments list [.2]
  - none

[.1] http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/desc/4/lc-issues/
[.2] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-desc-comments/

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10. Component model changes
  - LC105: Proposal for Simplifications to the Component Model [.2]
    - Arthur's modification to the LC105 proposal [.3]
    - Need to decide whether to allow "property" extensions at the 
      top level.
    - Resolutions so far:
      + Add constraint that top-level components must be unique.
      + Add parent property to nested components.

[.1] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2005Jan/0060.html
[.2] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2005Jan/0056.html
[.3] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2005Jan/0066.html

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11. Issue LC75u: Add wsdl:documentation to the component model [.1]

[.1] http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/desc/4/lc-issues/issues.html#LC75u

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12. Issue LC80: Extension Components are not Described [.1]

[.1] http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/desc/4/lc-issues/issues.html#LC80

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13. Issue LC83: The Component Model Does Not Enforce Component
                Nesting [.1]
  - Parent property

[.1] http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/desc/4/lc-issues/issues.html#LC83

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14. Issue LC99: Message Reference Component is Underspecified [.1]

[.1] http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/desc/4/lc-issues/issues.html#LC99

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15. Issue LC54: WSDL Last Call issue
  - Awaiting DaveO's further action to cast @compatibleWith as an
    extension

[.1] http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/desc/4/lc-issues/#LC54

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16. Issue LC84b:  [.1]
  - Hugo's draft proposal [.2]

[.1] http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/desc/4/lc-issues/issues.html#LC84b
[.2] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2005Feb/0035.html

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17. Issue LC74: Idle question [.1]
  - Can WSDL 2.0 import WSDL 1.0?
  - Note that the resolution to LC5e [.2] defines WSDL Document as 
    WSDL 2.0 namespace.
  - Options:
    a) No.  Spec (with LC5e resolution) is clear enough.
    b) No.  Specifically note that i*ing 1.1 docs is not supported.
    c) Yes.  Change spec to define that this is possible, though
       how to turn a WSDL 1.1 doc into WSDL 2.0 components is not
       defined.

[.1] http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/desc/4/lc-issues/#LC74
[.2] http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/desc/4/lc-issues/#LC5e
 
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18. Issue LC75w: WSDL 2.0 LC Comments (w) [.1]
  - Relax requirement that include href must be dereferencable.

 [.1] http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/desc/4/lc-issues/#LC75w

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19. Other issues if time allows (ha!)
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