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Re: Draft definition of WS

From: Anne Thomas Manes <anne@manes.net>
Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2003 13:04:35 -0400
Message-ID: <003801c352ce$e7fcf080$6f01a8c0@TPX21>
To: "Cutler, Roger \(RogerCutler\)" <RogerCutler@chevrontexaco.com>, "Brian Connell" <brian@westglobal.com>, "David Booth" <dbooth@w3.org>, <www-ws-arch@w3.org>

Why not replace "machine-to-machine" with "application-to-application"?

----- Original Message -----
From: "Cutler, Roger (RogerCutler)" <RogerCutler@chevrontexaco.com>
To: "Brian Connell" <brian@westglobal.com>; "David Booth" <dbooth@w3.org>;
Sent: Friday, July 25, 2003 12:28 PM
Subject: RE: Draft definition of WS

> The point is valid, but I think that just about everybody agrees that
> the basic intention behind "designed to support machine-to-machine ..."
> is extremely important.  That's essentially what separates Web services
> from ugly things like screen scraping Web sites.
> I personally do not think that the current phrasing implies that it
> can't be used on the same machine -- just that the common usage pattern
> is different machines.  Recall, however, that I essentially brought up
> the same point objecting to introducing the word "remote" into the
> definition.
> I think that removing "machine-to-machine" altogether would be a very
> bad idea, but some sort of recognition somewhere that interactions on
> the same machine are "OK" would be useful.  I don't think that anybody
> would object to a specific Web service implementation that, for some
> good reason, was not actually exposed to other machines.  The potential
> would exist, of course, to expose it -- one can just turn that off if
> appropriate.
> Doesn't this sort of come under the security umbrella?  That is,
> controlling the scope to which the service is exposed, with one extreme
> being no network exposure whatsoever?
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Brian Connell [mailto:brian@westglobal.com]
> Sent: Friday, July 25, 2003 10:43 AM
> To: David Booth; www-ws-arch@w3.org
> Subject: RE: Draft definition of WS
> Hi,
> I have an issue I would like to raise with the phrase
> 'machine-to-machine'.
> > A Web service is a software system, designed to support
> > machine-to-machine interaction over a network,
> This implies that a Web service is not designed to be used if the
> software systems are interacting on the same machine (even using the
> same processor).
> Can I suggest that we remove the 'machine-to-machine' term altogether,
> or that we further qualify the word 'interaction' in a way that includes
> software systems on the same 'machine'.
> Regards,
> Brian Connell
Received on Friday, 25 July 2003 13:05:15 UTC

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