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RE: Binding

From: Jean-Jacques Dubray <jjd@eigner.com>
Date: Mon, 6 Jan 2003 11:18:31 -0500
To: "'Miles Sabin'" <miles@milessabin.com>, <www-ws-arch@w3.org>, <distobj@acm.org>
Message-ID: <002a01c2b59f$53f57d20$156e050a@JJD>

Pardon my ignorance, I am wondering what a RESTfull or RESTLess business
transaction would look like (not getastockquote). 

I have a suggestion, now that Office is XML enabled, we could all return
to using GOFM (good old fax machines), and fax our XML back and forth.
That way you get security, non-repudiation and guaranteed delivery for
free, things that are far from given when you use an HTTP GET/POST with
SOAP bubbles or not.

Jean-Jacques Dubray____________________

PS: I have been working with web services since 1998 (remember
BowStreet?) and since 1998 the only meaningful example people can come
up with is getting a stock quote and make generalizations from it. This
is so depressing.
 

>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: www-ws-arch-request@w3.org [mailto:www-ws-arch-request@w3.org]
On
>>Behalf Of Miles Sabin
>>Sent: Monday, January 06, 2003 11:07 AM
>>To: www-ws-arch@w3.org
>>Subject: Re: Binding
>>
>>
>>Mark Baker wrote,
>>> On Mon, Jan 06, 2003 at 03:23:15PM +0000, Miles Sabin wrote:
>>> > I'd like you to explain _in_detail_ why these two conditions are
>>> > less demanding than the corresponding conditions for (2').
>>>
>>> Ok, here goes ...
>>>
>>> Here's what a RESTful client needs to know in order to get the data;
>>>
>>> - URI
>>> - HTTP GET
>>>
>>> Here's what a Web services client needs to know in order to get the
>>> data;
>>>
>>> - URI
>>> - what "getLastSharePriceOfIBM" means
>>
>>Frankly, this is just smoke and mirrors.
>>
>>The URI in the REST case contains the substring "/ibm/lastshareprice".
>>It needs to know what that substring means just as much (or as little)
>>as the RESTless client needs to know what "getLastSharePriceOfIBM"
>>means.
>>
>>Getting rid of a priori knowledge isn't as easy as string
concatenation.
>>
>>Is this really the best you can do? If it is, then I spy a naked
>>emperor.
>>
>>Cheers,
>>
>>
>>Miles
Received on Monday, 6 January 2003 11:21:08 GMT

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