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RE: Snapshot of Web Services Glossary

From: Cutler, Roger (RogerCutler) <RogerCutler@chevrontexaco.com>
Date: Mon, 24 Feb 2003 14:24:51 -0600
Message-ID: <7FCB5A9F010AAE419A79A54B44F3718E01817D14@bocnte2k3.boc.chevrontexaco.net>
To: "Walden Mathews" <waldenm@optonline.net>, "Ugo Corda" <UCorda@SeeBeyond.com>, www-ws-arch@w3.org

That's a really good idea.  Using your suggestions from
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-arch/2003Feb/0300.html:

If synchronous means "blocking", then it you block you block -- you
cannot create an unblocked interaction out of blocking interactions --
so under that meaning you can't build an asynch out of synch's.

If synchronous means solicited, then again I don't see how one can
combine solicited messages to create an unsolicited one.

If, however, synchronous means "relatively short time" (which most
people on this thread seem to think is not a good idea), then I guess
you can put together a bunch of messages that take a short time into a
whole that takes a long time.  This seems, however, relatively trivial
and maybe it illustrates why people don't seem to like the "short time"
approach.

Even if you go to Mr. Arkin's rather formal definition which, if I
understand it, says that a message is synchronous if it is possible for
people on the two ends to agree what time it is -- it still seems to me
that if you compose a message out of a bunch of messages where you know
what time it is, in the composite it still should be possible to figure
out what time it is.

Sooooo -- I am really wondering how one can make an asynchronous message
out of synchronous components.

-----Original Message-----
From: Walden Mathews [mailto:waldenm@optonline.net] 
Sent: Monday, February 24, 2003 1:48 PM
To: Ugo Corda; Cutler, Roger (RogerCutler); www-ws-arch@w3.org
Subject: Re: Snapshot of Web Services Glossary


Er, especially if no one agrees on what these terms actually mean.  Ugo,
would it be possible for you to restate what you said below without
using either 'synch' term?  Maybe if each of us tried that once or twice
we might get to a better place?

WM

----- Original Message -----
From: "Ugo Corda" <UCorda@SeeBeyond.com>
To: "Cutler, Roger (RogerCutler)" <RogerCutler@chevrontexaco.com>;
<www-ws-arch@w3.org>
Sent: Monday, February 24, 2003 1:38 PM
Subject: RE: Snapshot of Web Services Glossary


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> >Incidentally, in one of the earlier go-arounds on this subject I 
> >believe that it was pointed out that one can build a synchronous 
> >interaction out of asynchronous components.
>
> And vice-versa, one could build an asynchronous interaction out of
synchronous components.
>
> Ugo
>
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