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RE: Current summary of Label for Top Node of "triangle diagram"

From: Sedukhin, Igor <Igor.Sedukhin@ca.com>
Date: Thu, 3 Oct 2002 17:12:18 -0400
Message-ID: <87527035FDD42A428221FA578D4A9A5B992364@usilms24.ca.com>
To: "David Orchard" <dorchard@bea.com>, <www-ws-arch@w3.org>

David,

Please include my term "Discovery Mechanism" in the next strawpoll. That
is *in addition* to the "Discovery Agencies". I've heard on the phone
that some people liked it, and I do as well.

My proposal was to list all the terms in the first strawpoll, then
choose three/four "winners", and have another strawpoll to establish
consensus. That'll make it most productive and let people have better
choices e.g. I really like Discovery Mechanism, but would go for
Agencies if it comes down to it.

-- Igor Sedukhin .. (igor.sedukhin@ca.com)
-- (631) 342-4325 .. 1 CA Plaza, Islandia, NY 11788


-----Original Message-----
From: David Orchard [mailto:dorchard@bea.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, October 02, 2002 4:22 PM
To: www-ws-arch@w3.org
Subject: Current summary of Label for Top Node of "triangle diagram"



After a week of spirited debate, I've gone through and summarized as
best I can the leanings of people.

Preferences:
Web Services Registry : DaveO, Heather, EricN, Joel, ChrisF, DaveH#3( he
preferred Services Registry for his 3rd choice but it seemed to fit in
here), maybe Mark Jones - he +1 to a message from Heather. Discover
Mechanism: Igor Discovery Agency: ChrisF#2 Advertising and Discovery
Services/Mechanisms: DaveH#1 Services Description and Discovery:
DaveH#2, Mike Champion the Web: DavidB

Really don't like:
* Registry: DavidB
the Web: Many people

Seems that the use of Registry is ok for the most number of people but
it also has an objection.

I'm not sure quite how to get to consensus on this issue.  I have a
feeling if we get to consensus, we'll be left with a term that nobody
likes, but that nobody hates.  Which I don't think would serve any of
our communities. Or we could do the usual standards thing and union them
so that everybody gets their feature in: Web Services Description,
Discovery and Advertising Registries, Agencies and Mechanisms on the Web
;-)

To be blunt, it looks to me like Registry with a prefix of some kind is
the one that satisfies the most with only annoying a few.  Again, not
the best solution.

Maybe what we could do is adopt (WS|S|{}) Registry, and then as early as
possible show that google is an example of this.

Personally, I'd really like to move on from this issue - time to market
cough.  This is one term, and we've got dozens more as well as
relationships to define.

Cheers,
Dave

> -----Original Message-----
> From: www-ws-arch-request@w3.org [mailto:www-ws-arch-request@w3.org]On
> Behalf Of David Orchard
> Sent: Thursday, September 26, 2002 2:26 PM
> To: www-ws-arch@w3.org
> Subject: Label for Top Node of "triangle diagram"
>
>
>
> This kicks off discussions about what to call the top node in our 
> triangle diagram.
>
> Some of the terms bandied about (and I list these to support 
> brainstorming/creative works): Registry
> Registry agency
> Discovery Mechanism
> Publish/Discover
> Advertiser
> Search Engine
> Metadata store
>
> I looked up in roget's some various synonyms for registry, and I found

> catalog(ue for those that write proper english:-), roster, list, roll.

> I looked at discovery and found ascertainment, find, finding,
> strike.  BTW, I
> despise the term metadata in this context.
>
> The way I see it, we can go one of 4 paths:
> 1) Label it by the function it supports - publish/discover is an 
> example
> 2) Label it by a term that represent the function it supports
> - registry is
> an example.
> 3) Same as #2, except we come up with a whole new term.  This has 
> precedent - RoyF came up with Representations because the trm document

> wasn't quite right.
> 4) Create some modified term based on the previous, like "web service 
> registry"
>
> I observe that lots of companies and people spent time figuring out 
> these and other terms.  The chance of us recreating something
> useful in a timely
> manner that is different with what's gone on seems unlikely to me.
>
> I gather that people have heartburn over the term "registry" because 
> it implies a solution like UDDI.  Is there any prefix that might
> suffice?   My
> personal preference is registry with a prefix like Web Service.
>
> Anyways, let's discuss.  And I'll add in people's suggestions and 
> resend the summaries at various points.  I'd prefer to hear what 
> people strongly like
> and strongly dislike, so we can get a feel for any consensus, or even
> majority of the group.
>
> Cheers,
> Dave
>
>
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