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Re: D-AC009.2 discussion points and proposal(s)

From: Jeff Mischkinsky <jeff.mischkinsky@oracle.com>
Date: Thu, 23 May 2002 21:29:18 -0700
Message-Id: <4.3.2.7.2.20020523212624.00c653e0@gmamerimap.oraclecorp.com>
To: Mark Baker <distobj@acm.org>, David Booth <dbooth@w3.org>
Cc: "Champion, Mike" <Mike.Champion@softwareag-usa.com>, wsawg public <www-ws-arch@w3.org>
At 06:23 PM 5/23/02, Mark Baker wrote:
>Well said.
>
>Web services folks can't have it both ways.  If it is part of the Web,
>then the Semantic Web must be accomodated.  If it isn't part of the
>Web, then the Semantic Web can be ignored - but in that case, what
>the heck are Web services doing in the W3C?

Be careful what you wish for, you might get it. :-)
     jeff


>MB
>
>On Thu, May 23, 2002 at 04:47:33PM -0400, David Booth wrote:
> > (Just so that this message is not misunderstood, I am not objecting to
> > Chris's currently proposed wording for D-AC009.2, because I believe the
> > issue is more relevant to the resulting Working Groups and technologies
> > than the Architecture WG itself.  However I do want to point out one thing
> > for the benefit of future decisions . . .  )
> >
> > At 02:00 PM 5/21/2002 -0400, Champion, Mike wrote:
> > >the WS requirements should be
> > >driving the SW requirements rather than vice versa.
> >
> > I think it would be very dangerous to reverse the requirement like
> > that.  Web Services is important, but it isn't more important than the Web
> > as a whole.  The Semantic Web is just the incremental advancement of the
> > Web as a whole to be more useful.  (Specifically, to enable you to find,
> > share and combine information much more easily.)  It isn't a separate Web
> > application.
> >
> > Web Services needs to work with the Web -- not the other way 
> around.  If we
> > were to turn the requirement around, then we would risk Web Services
> > fracturing or inhibiting the Web as a whole, which would be very bad 
> indeed.
> >
> >
> > --
> > David Booth
> > W3C Fellow / Hewlett-Packard
> > Telephone: +1.617.253.1273
>
>--
>Mark Baker, CTO, Idokorro Mobile (formerly Planetfred)
>Ottawa, Ontario, CANADA.               distobj@acm.org
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