Here are some further comments on this excellent first cut - in line. Cheers, -Suresh Sterling Commerce -----Original Message----- From: ECKERT,ZULAH (HP-Cupertino,ex1) [mailto:zulah_eckert@hp.com] Sent: Wednesday, June 19, 2002 2:10 PM To: Damodaran, Suresh; 'kreger@us.ibm.com'; Hao.He@thomson.ocm.au; adiber@att.com; ECKERT,ZULAH (HP-Cupertino,ex1); wsgeek2002@yahoo.com Cc: WSA W3C Public (E-mail) Subject: proposed AC018 rewording Hi All, Here is a proposed rewording of AC018 from Heather and Zulah. Comments? Zulah ---------------------------------------------------------------------- AC018 Enables the management of web services AC018.1 Ensures that implementations of the Web Services Architecture are manageable. [Damodaran, Suresh] "ensures" is too strong? AR018.1.1 Define a base set of standard metrics for architectural components and their interactions accompanied by guidelines for measurement. [Damodaran, Suresh] An example of a metric for component & interaction will be helpful for understanding. AR018.1.2 Define a base set of standard management operations for Web Services Architecture implementations. Management operations includes, but is not limited to, support for configuration control and lifecycle control. [Damodaran, Suresh] I have difficulty understanding what "configuration control" of WSA implementations means. Is that the configuration of architectural components that can work together? Also, does life cycle apply to a component or more? AR018.1.3 Define a base set of management events to be issued by the Web Services Architecture implementation. AR018.1.4 Define a standard methodology for accessing management capabilities from the Web Services Architecture implementation. AC018.2 Ensures that implementations of the Web Service instances are manageable. AR018.2.1 Define how a web service should expose web service specific metrics, configuration, operations, and events. AR018.2.2 Support the discovery of web service management capabilities. AR018.2.3 Define a standard methodology for accessing management capabilities of a Web Service through the Web Services Architecture implementation. AC018.3 Ensure that at least the following types of management applications are supported: Performance Monitoring, Availability, Configuration, Control, and Service Level Agreements. [Damodaran, Suresh] I would prefer just "monitoring" - SLAs are not applications. What does "control" mean in this context? I am a bit confused at this point about the difference between 18.1 and 18.2 - for example, 18.1.4 & 18.2.3 are same? If not what does 18.1.4 mean?Received on Monday, 24 June 2002 19:28:12 GMT
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