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RE: A viewpoint on harvesting REST

From: David Orchard <dorchard@bea.com>
Date: Wed, 31 Jul 2002 12:40:37 -0700
To: "'Mark Baker'" <distobj@acm.org>, "'Ugo Corda'" <UCorda@SeeBeyond.com>
Cc: <www-ws-arch@w3.org>
Message-ID: <02b201c238ca$265a0c20$d11ce8d8@beasys.com>

I think there's a whole transport binding framework in SOAP 1.2 that allows
SOAP to be treated as a layer.  You might disagree with it, but it's
certainly in the spec.

Cheers,
Dave

> -----Original Message-----
> From: www-ws-arch-request@w3.org [mailto:www-ws-arch-request@w3.org]On
> Behalf Of Mark Baker
> Sent: Wednesday, July 31, 2002 12:47 PM
> To: Ugo Corda
> Cc: www-ws-arch@w3.org
> Subject: Re: A viewpoint on harvesting REST
>
>
>
> On Wed, Jul 31, 2002 at 10:54:53AM -0700, Ugo Corda wrote:
> > >Soap WSDL should be able to provide a basic description of
> a URI, its
> > >support for GET, its GET 'query' and the MIME type it
> returns. Ditto for
> > >POST. Soap should provide a binding that allows web
> service endpoints to
> > >offer services at the HTTP level without requiring
> enclosing Soap wire
> > >enveloping on request or response.
> >
> > In fact, isn't this already addressed by WSDL 1.2, "HTTP
> GET and POST
> > Binding"?
>
> I'd say that SOAP already does this, simply by not getting in
> the way of
> letting you do what Mark describes.  You're free to use HTTP and SOAP
> together, side-by-side.  Invoking HTTP GET on a SOAP endpoint
> URI may be
> done with a SOAP library, but can also easily be done with a regular
> HTTP client library.
>
> The big value-add of the Web Method feature in this respect,
> is that it
> may lead to developers using SOAP libraries and HTTP libraries
> together, at the same time, rather than just a SOAP library.  Because
> I've always seen the Web Method feature's principle architectural
> impact to basically dispel the notion of SOAP as a layer (which it
> never was starting at SOAP 1.1, despite it being viewed this way), and
> instead to encourage it to be treated as an extension of the
> underlying
> protocol.
>
> MB
> --
> Mark Baker, CTO, Idokorro Mobile (formerly Planetfred)
> Ottawa, Ontario, CANADA.               distobj@acm.org
> http://www.markbaker.ca        http://www.idokorro.com
>
>
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