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RE: Proposal for new Goal: AG007 Management and Provisioning

From: Sedukhin, Igor <Igor.Sedukhin@ca.com>
Date: Thu, 25 Jul 2002 09:58:50 -0400
Message-ID: <849C1D32E4C7924F854D8A0356C72A9E05DBE371@usilms08.ca.com>
To: Darran Rolls <Darran.Rolls@waveset.com>, "ECKERT,ZULAH (HP-Cupertino,ex1)" <zulah_eckert@hp.com>, "WSA W3C Public (E-mail)" <www-ws-arch@w3c.org>

Darran,

Probably AC-YYY will do for provisioning, if you want to champion one. Similar to AC-0018 for management.

The goal should be common though for management and provisioning is very much interrelated and basically fall into a category that is very hard to separate without significant perception differences.

For example SLAs, are they provisioning or management related... There could be plenty of opinions here.
Same applies to accounting/billing, which commonly falls into provisioning. The only way to do the later is to meter the usage, and that is usually management task.

The intended purpose of AG-0007 was to provide for organization and control of the environment in which WSs operate.

My take on this is that if we can pull AG-0007, then we get a space to consolidate all related work. Otherwise there could be too few supporters of each of the separated goals and none would get in.

-- Igor Sedukhin .. (Igor.Sedukhin@ca.com)
-- (631) 342-4325 .. 1 CA Plaza, Islandia, NY 11788



-----Original Message-----
From: Darran Rolls [mailto:Darran.Rolls@waveset.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, July 24, 2002 7:18 PM
To: ECKERT,ZULAH (HP-Cupertino,ex1); WSA W3C Public (E-mail)
Subject: RE: Proposal for new Goal: AG007 Management and Provisioning



Comments:

-- I fully support the separation of managerial elements of the architecture into the separate goal AG007.

-- As a representative from a provisioning solutions company I'm obviously happy to see the word "Provisioning" so clearly called out ;-).  That said, I don't see why we would do this above other mgmt disciplines.  I would rather see it identified in a separate sub-goal or requirement thus:
	
	"AG|R XXXX   The WSA should include a reference model for
provisioning of all elements of a web service that is consistent with emerging WS identity and general service provisioning standards"

-- I therefore propose the following amendments to the main description of the goal:
	AG007 - WS Management
	The WSA must provide guidelines on how to manage the 
	complete life-cycle of an operating web service.    

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Darran Rolls                      http://www.waveset.com
Waveset Technologies Inc          drolls@waveset.com 
(512) 657 8360                    
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: ECKERT,ZULAH (HP-Cupertino,ex1) [mailto:zulah_eckert@hp.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, July 24, 2002 6:04 PM
> To: WSA W3C Public (E-mail)
> Cc: ECKERT,ZULAH (HP-Cupertino,ex1)
> Subject: Proposal for new Goal: AG007 Management and Provisioning
> 
> 
> 
> 
> The RTF recommends the addition of a new goal, AG007 below, and moving 
> AC018 from AG002 (Reliability) to AG007. The reason for this addition 
> and
change
> is that "reliability" does not adequately contain the success factors
for
> management.
> 
> 
> AG007 Management and Provisioning
> Web Services Architecture must provide for a manageable, accountable
and
> organized environment for Web Services operations.
> 
> Please comment on this new proposal as I will be asking the team to 
> consider this change at tomorrow's meeting,
> Zulah
Received on Thursday, 25 July 2002 10:08:09 GMT

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