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Re: Proposed Consensus Review of RDF Core Documents

From: Jeremy Carroll <jjc@hplb.hpl.hp.com>
Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2003 12:53:20 +0000
Message-ID: <3E54CFC0.7070402@hpl.hp.com>
To: "Peter F. Patel-Schneider" <pfps@research.bell-labs.com>
CC: hendler@cs.umd.edu, www-webont-wg@w3.org

>>We have resolved that rdf:XMLLiteral will be a built-in datatype in 
>>OWL Lite, OWL DL and OWL Full contingent on a satisfactory response 
>>from RDF Core WG on this comment.
> I don't remember this resolution.

Neither do I, the text was copied from a message from me proposing such a 
resolution, followed by proposing this comment.

I wanted the comment to have the form of:
- request a change (some sort of stick in hand here)
- agree to use the changed mechanism (a carrot)

>>Raphael Volz of our group has prepared a detailed review of this 
>>document which he will send to the RDF Core WG.  The Web Ontology 
>>Working Group agrees with the spirit of his review and summarizes our 
>>comments below:
>>i. Although this document is called RDF Schema we think that the 
>>title "RDF Vocabulary Description Language" would be clearer, and 
>>make the difference from XML Schema (used for validation) more 
>>ii. The current design does not specify what the behavior is for 
>>domain/range constraints stated on super-properties wrt. to 
>>subproperties.  We would request that a default behavior be specified.
> This paragraph does not address the issue that Raphael brought up.  The
> interaction between domain/range constraints and sub-/super-properties is
> well specified in the formal semantics, and not a separate problem.  The
> problem has to do with Section 4 of the RDF Schema document, which vaguely
> talks about RDF applications using domain/range constraints for things like
> document validity checking.

I feel that the lack of consensus over section 4 should be made explicit - 
otherwise I feel a certain discomfort over the endorsement of his review.
Personally I support the section 4 text as is.

>>Consensus comments on the RDF Semantics document
>>We believe that the design of the semantics, as reflected in the LC 
>>documents, is such that OWL will be able to layer appropriately. 
> The basic design of the semantics may be suitable, but there are many
> problems in the details that affect OWL.  It might be able to layer OWL on
> the semantics as described in the RDF Semantics last call working draft,
> but it would require considerable work on our part to get around the errors
> in that document.
>>However, we have a number of concerns that need to be addressed to 
>>improve the document (and, in particular, to fix some inconsistencies 
>>in the current document).
>>Herman ter Horst of our group has prepared a detailed review of this 
>>document itemizing inconsistencies he has found.  The Web Ontology WG 
>>endorses the spirit of his review, and has asked Herman to help 
>>insure that the final RDF Semantics document is edited to fix the 
>>inconsistencies and editorial issues that he identifies.
> You should mention here the many errors that I have found in this document,
> most of which have been verified by Pat.  We might want to discuss my
> current view of the way forward with respect to the RDF Semantics document
> at the teleconference today.
> peter

I would suggest a phrase like "... working closely with the lead OWL 
semantics' editor to ensure that ...", since we desire this and it is 
likely to happen.

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