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Re: Timeline

From: Jeremy Carroll <jjc@hplb.hpl.hp.com>
Date: Fri, 07 Feb 2003 14:45:18 +0000
Message-ID: <3E43C67E.50903@hpl.hp.com>
To: Jim Hendler <hendler@cs.umd.edu>
CC: Jeremy Carroll <jjc@hplb.hpl.hp.com>, www-webont-wg@w3.org


> Guus and I have no trouble conceiving it, but if we don't get SPECIFIC 
> issues and resolutions proposed, we'll never finish
> 


I raise specific issues - they do not get added to the issue list, they do 
not get formally opened - they do not get assigned owners - I am left as a 
choke point.


>>
>> There are some currently open issues - in all but name.
>> These will need to be resolved.
>>
>> I am still uncovering worrying features of AS&S, such as obstruction 
>> of the use of RDF vocabulary [1], when equivalent user defined 
>> vocabulary is permitted. This could well be perceived as malicious 
>> non-cooperativeness by some other WG.
> 
> 
>   WHAT IS YOUR PROPOSAL?
> 


That we open issues. My message [1] in this case had a concrete proposal, 
that we include all the rdf vocabulary mentioned.


> 
>>
>> I have a number of review comments against AS&S on the list [2],[3], 
>> some of which will be subsumed by other issues - but I will be 
>> reviewing those comments and raising the pertinent ones again when we 
>> next have a last call candidate for AS&S.
> 
> 
>  REVIEW COMMENTS ARE EDITORIAL - chairs aren't interested in hearing 
> about them until we are at LC --  OR TECHNICAL - in which case make it 
> clear which ones need dealing with
> 


I have only made technical comments; I believe herman's comments were 
largely technical in nature.


>>
>> It is unclear how many of Herman's review comments on AS&S have been 
>> addressed.
> 
> 
> Herman - same comment as to the above - most of your comments are 
> editorial, and are just waiting for Peter to get around to them. Please 
> pull out those you think effect the design of the language
> 
>> These all may require changes in the AS&S, and many of these changes 
>> may be distasteful to the editor - this is unlikely to speed the process.
> 
> 
> I'm tempted to send both of you to the time out corner -- there's a 
> certain kindergarten dynamics at work here :-<
> 


Not on my part.


> look, if we can get these things to proposed resolutions the WG can vote 
> on, then the document will reflect the decisions, The AS&S editors have 
> never to my knowledge gone against a WG decision on purpose.  But 
> frankly, if I was an AS&S editor, I'd be hesitant to keep making changes 
> because I think we're at the point of changing things one way and then 
> changing them back later.  WIthout specific technical decisions, all 
> we're doing is asking editors to waste their time editing -- but it is 
> frustrating to fix wording changes if their are TECHNICAL issues being 
> discussed - because those can require major sections.
> 
> So, again, PROPOSE SPECIFIC SOLUTIONS TO SPECIFIC TECHNICAL problems 
> that the WG can resolve and we will make progress.
> 
>>
>> Jeremy
>>
>> [1]
>> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-webont-wg/2003Feb/0071.html
>> [2]
>> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-webont-wg/2003Jan/0416.html
>> [3]
>> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-webont-wg/2003Jan/0452.html
> 
> 
> 

Jeremy
Received on Friday, 7 February 2003 09:45:30 GMT

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