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Re: How can I make valid for 3W Marck up Validation

From: Michael Adams <linux_mike@paradise.net.nz>
Date: Thu, 24 Jan 2008 22:15:42 +1300
To: www-validator@w3.org
Message-id: <20080124221542.24e980ae.linux_mike@paradise.net.nz>

On Wed, 23 Jan 2008 10:12:02 +0000
David Dorward wrote:

> 
> 
> On 23 Jan 2008, at 09:19, Joseph Plazo wrote:
> > Yes, I'm quite aware of that. I love it for its WYSIWG features as  
> > well as the fact I've been using FP since 1998. I did try to create 
> > a few subdomains at http://www.xtrememind.com using the latest  
> > incarnation, MS ExpressionWeb. Guess what? The validator at http:// 
> > validator.w3.org/ points out an armada of errors. That's from a  
> > 2007 product that didn't come cheap.
> 
> Getting people to pay money for software of such quality is a  
> demonstration of the effectiveness of the Microsoft marketing machine.
> 
> > Dreamweaver churns out my pages with fewer glitches but this  
> > software isn't as friendly.
> >
> > >Microsoft have a reputation for being unable to write software that
> > >generates standards compliant HTML.
> >
> > Hmmm... will there be any dramatic indexing problems on sites that  
> > can't be fully w3c compliant?
> 
> There could be, also rendering issues in browsers. When you ignore  
> standards, you are entering the realm of error handling, and that is  
> not all that well documented. You are also facing bloated markup and  
> various other problems.
> 
> > Thanks for the advice, unfortunately going back to text editors is  
> > like me going back to Lotus 1-2-3 or MS DOS v5.0. It's not WYSIWYG.
> 
> HTML is a language about describing meaning not appearance, WYSIWYG  
> isn't an appropriate metaphor for it.
> 
> I know a large number of professional web developers. I think a grand 
> total of three of them use Dreamweaver - and they don't use the  
> design view. (And no other editor with a so called WYSIWYG mode gets  
> a look in).

The web is "What They Get Is What You Mean" if you do it right.

> > Kindly point out graphically dazzling and wonderfully easy html  
> > editors that churn out compliant html and I'll be forever a good  
> > friend of your.
> 
> 
> They don't exist.
> 

I must admit WYMEditor looks promising. But i am looking at it from a
CMS POV.

-- 
Michael

All shall be well, and all shall be well, and all manner of things shall
be well

 - Julian of Norwich 1342 - 1416
Received on Thursday, 24 January 2008 09:15:12 GMT

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