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Re: Can we have the "type" and "encoding" options back?

From: Ulrich Mueller <ulm@kph.uni-mainz.de>
Date: Wed, 27 Nov 2002 08:14:11 +0100
Message-ID: <15844.28867.188704.374529@a1i15.kph.uni-mainz.de>
To: Terje Bless <link@pobox.com>
Cc: W3C Validator <www-validator@w3.org>

Terje Bless writes:

>> - The selections for "type" and "encoding" are no longer present on
>> the result page, so there seems to be no easy way to revalidate the
>> document, e.g. with a different doctype.

> These options will only appear on pages that are not Valid in the
> current version.

This seems to be reasonable. I had only checked with valid pages and
noticed that the options were absent now.

> The intended function of these options is to help you make your
> documents Valid, and the assumption then went that once the page is
> Valid you no longer have a need of them. Removing them on Valid
> results pages were a tradeoff between offering functionality and
> making the results easy to interpret.

Maybe you could add a link on the "valid results" page, pointing to
another page with these options included? This would keep the valid
results page clean, and with one more mouseclick one could get the old

>> - Is it really necessary to use the &ldquo; and &rdquo; entities?
>> Some old browsers are not happy with them. Wouldn't simple double
>> quotes do?

> More seriously; what specific browsers have trouble with them

Netscape 4.7 (I know that this is not a state-of-the-art browser, but
it is still running here on many of our Linux systems.)

> and how does this "trouble" manifest itself?

It will display the entities verbatim as "&ldquo;" and "&rdquo;".
Of course it is the browser that is to blame, but on the other hand
you wouldn't lose much by using simple double quotes.

Best regards
Ulrich Müller

Ulrich Mueller, Inst. fuer Kernphysik, Univ. Mainz, D-55099 Mainz
ulm@kph.uni-mainz.de, Phone +49 6131 39-25812, Fax -22964
Received on Wednesday, 27 November 2002 02:16:49 UTC

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