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Re: Doctype and Netscape 6

From: todd fahrner <fahrner@pobox.com>
Date: Wed, 23 May 2001 22:44:51 -0700
Message-Id: <200105240544.f4O5isJ27818@dot.dreamhost.com>
Cc: www-validator@w3.org
To: "Tomislav Grabic" <imeil@web.de>
On Tuesday, May 22, 2001, at 07:45 , Tomislav Grabic wrote:

> I had a template validated by the service. The only warning was the 
> absence of a Doctype decleration. In IE and Netscape 4.08 (except a 
> little glitch) and NN 6 it looked good before, but then I pasted in 
> each of the three listed Doctypes. NN6 was completely ripped apart. I 
> don't understand why, but maybe somebody here understands why. The url;
> http://www.iroke.de/templatetest.html

See these results: 

While syntactically valid, your document is formatted according to a set 
of notions (tables for layout, spacer GIFs, BR runs, etc.)  that is 
difficult or impossible to accommodate within the framework of W3C 
recommendations since 1996 at least. MacIE5, Netscape 6 (Mozilla), and 
WinIE6 take certain DOCTYPE declarations as a clue about the 
expectations of the author, and change their behaviors accordingly. 
DOCTYPEs referring to recent W3C-issued DTDs put these browsers into 
rendering modes that reward a more thorough embrace of CSS for document 
formatting. Have a look at, e.g., <http://glish.com/css/> for some 
pointers on escaping legacy formatting models.

todd fahrner
Received on Thursday, 24 May 2001 01:44:59 UTC

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