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Re: Timed-text , simple and soon

From: geoff freed <geoff_freed@wgbh.org>
Date: 11 Dec 2002 13:57:38 -0500
Message-ID: <-1172507441geoff_freed@wgbh.org>
To: "W3C Timed-text" <www-tt-tf@w3.org>, Jose Ramirez <joseram@empirenet.com>, <www-tt-tf-request@w3.org>


>Does version 1.0 of Timed-text have to take a long time? Can it just 
>have the features of RealText, added transparent background for the
>first version. 

I hope it doesn't take a long time.  (In fact, I'm sure nobody wants it to take a long time!)  The factors determining how long it takes are determined by, among other things...

1.  feature creep
2.  W3C process  

As for #1, I and some others have already advocated for a simple timed-text format that addresses basic and immediate needs, like captioning and subtitling.  It sounds like that's essentially what you're asking for, too.  I prefer that we develop a simple format for these purposes, release it and THEN add to it more complex features.  

I'm not sure we should just twiddle with RealText and call that our new format.  I think we can do better than that.

Regarding #2, the timed-text working group charter is at http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/ttcharter20020901.html.  According to the timeline, we're supposed to begin work in January, 2003, but I haven't heard any word from our W3C pals lately about this.  Al, is this still the case?  Any details?

Thanks.
Geoff Freed
WGBH/NCAM


On Wednesday, December 11, 2002, Jose Ramirez <joseram@empirenet.com> wrote:
>
>Hi all,
>Rob Lanphier from Helix mentions 8 minutes into this webcast that their 
>interested in Timed-text but that it takes a long time.
>
>http://ramhurl.real.com/smildemohurl.ram?file=/marketing/helix/webinar_producerdna/start_qa.smil
>
>Does version 1.0 of Timed-text have to take a long time? Can it just 
>have the features of RealText, added transparent background for the
>first version. In a language structure resembling XHTML+SMIL, in an 
>effort to keep the all the multimedia languages as similar as possible.
>Who knows in 5 to 10 years all these profiles may be united into one
>Multimedia profile for computer screens, phone-mobile screens,
>digital TV.
>
>
>An elaborate example of XHTML+SMIL text, that would make a good 
>Timed-text version 2.0 demo :)
>
>http://www.geocities.com/ramirez_j2001/freedom/xhtml-smil_example.html
>
>IE 6 only, about 1MB and a little over 1 minute long, preloaded to be in 
>sync.
>
>
>Jose Ramirez
>
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