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Re: Ending DTD proliferation at the W3C

From: Henri Sivonen <hsivonen@hsivonen.fi>
Date: Tue, 14 Jan 2014 09:14:24 +0200
Message-ID: <CANXqsRKOn5uKAK+iN3E10-oH_eHHxLMmaKE1=NvoOgJbxzzCzA@mail.gmail.com>
To: David Sheets <kosmo.zb@gmail.com>
Cc: "Michael[tm] Smith" <mike@w3.org>, "www-tag@w3.org List" <www-tag@w3.org>
On Tue, Jan 14, 2014 at 12:39 AM, David Sheets <kosmo.zb@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Mon, Jan 13, 2014 at 7:22 PM, Michael[tm] Smith <mike@w3.org> wrote:
>> Specifically, I'd like for there to be a document from the TAG somewhere
>> stating that:

I support Mike's proposal (though see below for an exception).

> How should vocabulary specifications exchange named character references?

They shouldn't.

As a special exception, the spec 2nd edition of XML Entity Definitions
for Characters (http://www.w3.org/2003/entities/2007doc/Overview.html)
could be allowed to proceed, since browsers are already required to
special-case some public ids so that they map to a (non-validation)
DTD that defines those entities. Note that XML Entity Definitions for
Characters doesn't use DTDs for validation and, therefore, is
orthogonal to the anti-DTD rationale that Mike stated. There
potentially exists a different anti-DTD rationale against entity
definitions, but, as noted, this particular list of entity definitions
is, for better or worse, already a requirement in practice. (Maybe in
the future we'll get XML5/XML-ER that makes these character names

Henri Sivonen
Received on Tuesday, 14 January 2014 07:14:52 UTC

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