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Re: trust models and AWWW (was Re: FYI, tag election links)

From: Melvin Carvalho <melvincarvalho@gmail.com>
Date: Mon, 17 Dec 2012 09:46:21 +0100
Message-ID: <CAKaEYhLrarhS=sv==WHNtgNO_h8ZPttd2hYXxDWyEa6A7nm=tg@mail.gmail.com>
To: Larry Masinter <masinter@adobe.com>
Cc: "ashok.malhotra@oracle.com" <ashok.malhotra@oracle.com>, "www-tag@w3.org" <www-tag@w3.org>
On 17 December 2012 01:59, Larry Masinter <masinter@adobe.com> wrote:

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> While the TAG might resist picking winners and losers in an unclear
> technology battle as a short-term strategy, I think AWWW suffers because it
> assumes trust too many places. ****
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> For updating the AWWW we have, Ive been thinking somewhat the opposite:
> that we need at least a model and a framework for talking about trust, and
> to encompass the different ways in which trust affects architecture.****
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> > I think what's key is that the AWWW resist pressures to pick winners and
> losers in trust. ****
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> Why is this key?****
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> > There should be a loose coupling between the trust system employed and
> web.  ****
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> There should be a coupling. Why loose?****
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> **  **When trust systems get closely coupled to an architecture, it is
> potentially problematic. ****
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> Everything is potentially problematic, why this one in particular?****
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> > IMHO it should even be possible to use an 'honor system'.****
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> An honor system is a kind of simple trust model. Why not?
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As a vendor neutral consortium I think the W3C should avoid picking winners
and losers, however a framework that allows different trust models to slot
in, in a clean, modular, way, could be reasonable.

Why in particular for trust?  Because trust pervades almost everything that
we do.  You might think of the 2008 subprime crisis as caused by a failure
in our trust systems ie instruments were marked at trusted (AAA rated) when
actually the models turned out to be highly inaccurate.


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