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Re: Amazon Silk

From: Yves Lafon <ylafon@w3.org>
Date: Thu, 29 Sep 2011 13:48:30 -0400 (EDT)
To: Robin Berjon <robin@berjon.com>
cc: Mark Nottingham <mnot@mnot.net>, www-tag@w3.org
Message-ID: <alpine.DEB.1.10.1109291320520.12177@wnl.j3.bet>
On Thu, 29 Sep 2011, Robin Berjon wrote:

> One good way of enabling checks and balances is to ensure there is 
> competition; and one good way of ensuring there is competition is by 
> creating open standards. That brings us out of cranky politics and back 
> to the cranky sausage factories that we know and love.

Well, if you are always in a tighly controlled world, you might not know 
what the competition can offer...

> So if these are indeed needs, then maybe we should make it possible (and 
> easier) for people to choose who they trust to accelerate their 
> browsing, as opposed to having a platform on which you can get fast 
> browsing from the tied-in browser, and a dog slow experience from all 
> the others. (Note that this isn't just a Silk issue ? Google's services 
> use SPDY with Chrome to make it much faster, something which people 
> would be screaming bloody murder about had say Microsoft tried it).

Well SPDY from chrome to Google's services is one thing, encrypting what 
goes from a browser to a content-transformation proxy is way different, as 
you have no real way to figure out if there is any abuse. And yes, 
perception by the public is one factor in the level of grudge that such 
things can raise.

About the need of having accelerators, yes, they can be useful, but being 
at least able to select your accelerator provider would be useful, at 
least to be able to look at what the competition can offer ;)

>> In an alternate Universe, the W3C would have more control over the 
>> brand that is "the Web" (e.g., with a certification program, which is a 
>> notoriously difficult place for a standards body to go). I'm not sure 
>> if it would be a better or worse universe.
> I honestly can't think of a single case in which such an approach 
> actually went well; but maybe it's just because we only hear of the 
> failures.

"Hot water may be hot" won't stop people to burn themselves...
Also defining what a browser is when things like websocket allows 
arbitrary communication between a turing machine and one server will not 
help warning about everything that can go bad...

Baroula que barouleras, au tiéu toujou t'entourneras.

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