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Re: HTML and XML

From: Jeff Sonstein <jeffs@it.rit.edu>
Date: Sun, 15 Feb 2009 18:47:17 -0500
Message-Id: <765034CF-F317-4DF8-82AD-7EBE10AA612A@it.rit.edu>
To: www-tag@w3.org
On Feb 15, 2009, at 4:50 PM, Bijan wrote:

> I'm not on the TAG list so replies that one would like me to respond
> to in a timely manner should be cced to me.)

www-tag list doesn't always
show me addresses of senders
(like this time... I have no idea of Bijan's address)
I was just "me too"-ing some of
Henry S. Thompson's sentiments
if memory serves me

to reiterate what I was responding to (and quoted in my note):

 > But I think the world has already voted with its feet on the XML5
 > question, in that there is a notable _lack_ of folk advocating it.
 > And there's good reason for that:  XML actually _is_ usable by
 > authors and authoring well-formed XML is _not_ hard.

> I also teach XML and related technologies

I was not claiming any god-like expertise
(far from it, believe me)
I just wanted to make clear that
I was not simply "spouting off" with no experience
that I was not speaking from
a dark place in my anatomy  ;^}

I am not claiming that *I* do perfect code alla time
I just find that "it is too hard" doesn't sell me
in at least this case
the case of XHTML

no offense intended

> In one graduate course (with the majority of students being PhD
> students), the students were supposed to produce a simple RDF/XML
> document. The majority of the submissions (IIRC) were not well formed
> XML.

I know the feeling...
and it makes me crazy sometimes

> In my personal experience, XML datasets found in the wild can be quite
> broken, at least, when I download them.

for sure
there is a lot of garbage produced...
sometimes *I* produce garbage
but I thought we were talking about
proposing and building standards and best practices documents

> I also don't think pejoratives or scorn or disbelief are helpful for
> understanding the situation.

I didn't think I had done that
but if it came across that way
my apologies
no offense or scorn intended
none at all

> I, personally, am interested in XML5 like efforts, FWIW.

so I gathered
I am not


"If we knew what we were doing,
  it wouldn't be called research, would it?"
- Albert Einstein -

Prof. Jeff Sonstein

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